1 00:01:33,590 --> 00:00:22,700 [Music] 2 00:01:48,430 --> 00:01:34,830 so 3 00:01:48,440 --> 00:02:09,109 [Music] 4 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:11,029 greetings and salutations friends and 5 00:02:15,910 --> 00:02:13,520 welcome back to truth seekers 6 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:15,920 um before we begin today i just wanted 7 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:18,000 to uh make a note 8 00:02:22,630 --> 00:02:20,400 that uh we're we're we've moved to a new 9 00:02:25,190 --> 00:02:22,640 streaming studio so i apologize for the 10 00:02:27,110 --> 00:02:25,200 audio or microphone quality yesterday 11 00:02:30,229 --> 00:02:27,120 obviously moving to a whole new studio 12 00:02:32,229 --> 00:02:30,239 uh there's a lot of dials to set in and 13 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:32,239 one of them was set horribly wrong so 14 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:34,080 these mistakes will happen i've switched 15 00:02:37,670 --> 00:02:35,599 back to the microphone that people 16 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:37,680 complain the least about 17 00:02:43,589 --> 00:02:40,959 uh and i think those issues are resolved 18 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:43,599 um thanks to those who reached out to me 19 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:45,760 uh you know letting me know 20 00:02:49,589 --> 00:02:47,680 i know as soon as i heard it or heard 21 00:02:51,830 --> 00:02:49,599 the playback so 22 00:02:55,990 --> 00:02:51,840 hopefully we've got these things handled 23 00:02:57,750 --> 00:02:56,000 uh so tonight we have a friend of rich 24 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:57,760 ufo tech 25 00:03:01,750 --> 00:02:59,440 who i've seen on 26 00:03:04,149 --> 00:03:01,760 uh alien addicts show and recently on 27 00:03:04,869 --> 00:03:04,159 josh and artemis 28 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:04,879 and 29 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:06,720 you know one of the things that he 30 00:03:10,710 --> 00:03:08,800 mentioned had mentioned is this 31 00:03:12,790 --> 00:03:10,720 difference in both 32 00:03:16,949 --> 00:03:12,800 the reporting of and almost the 33 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:16,959 perception of uf ufos or uaps across the 34 00:03:21,430 --> 00:03:19,920 pond there in great britain 35 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:21,440 and i found that interesting we want to 36 00:03:26,229 --> 00:03:23,680 explore that a little more 37 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:26,239 uh so we want to bring him here 38 00:03:31,030 --> 00:03:29,040 to uh to give us some of insight into 39 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:31,040 the differences in 40 00:03:34,470 --> 00:03:32,400 and and also 41 00:03:36,390 --> 00:03:34,480 i'd just like to know more about him and 42 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:36,400 how he fell into the rabbit hole let's 43 00:03:41,110 --> 00:03:39,840 get into it friends here's rich ufo tech 44 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:41,120 good to see you 45 00:03:45,430 --> 00:03:44,560 my friend from across the pond 46 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:45,440 yeah 47 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:46,640 so were 48 00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:48,959 yeah how's it going okay 49 00:03:53,350 --> 00:03:51,599 great great you know i'm uh it was my 50 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:53,360 birthday yesterday i'm having a great 51 00:03:57,190 --> 00:03:55,760 week i'm getting a lot of things done 52 00:03:58,949 --> 00:03:57,200 uh and and 53 00:04:01,429 --> 00:03:58,959 talking to you has been on my list for a 54 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:01,439 while because i was intrigued by this 55 00:04:05,110 --> 00:04:03,519 difference you know 56 00:04:06,949 --> 00:04:05,120 here in the united states i don't think 57 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:06,959 that a lot of people know that we're 58 00:04:11,270 --> 00:04:09,120 getting deluged you know we're getting 59 00:04:13,509 --> 00:04:11,280 just hammered with ufo stories in the 60 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:13,519 mainstream media even 61 00:04:18,069 --> 00:04:16,320 let alone the alternative media 62 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:18,079 and and you know there's a huge 63 00:04:23,110 --> 00:04:20,880 difference in in the way that's handled 64 00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:23,120 in other countries but but the first 65 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:25,040 question i have for you i ask everybody 66 00:04:30,469 --> 00:04:28,320 this on their first time in here is why 67 00:04:32,710 --> 00:04:30,479 the intense interest how did you fall 68 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:32,720 down this rabbit hole and what keeps you 69 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:33,840 here 70 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:35,759 uh well i've been interested for a long 71 00:04:41,909 --> 00:04:38,880 time uh i uh i 72 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:41,919 started off i would guess when i first 73 00:04:46,070 --> 00:04:44,560 when i was very very young and i read um 74 00:04:48,590 --> 00:04:46,080 chariots of the gods 75 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:48,600 back in the late 76 00:04:52,629 --> 00:04:51,520 1970s book which which fascinated me my 77 00:04:55,110 --> 00:04:52,639 parents 78 00:04:57,350 --> 00:04:55,120 well my mum had it on her 79 00:04:59,990 --> 00:04:57,360 on her dresser one day so 80 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:00,000 i i just nicked it and read it 81 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:03,120 and uh was uh fascinated from that 82 00:05:07,029 --> 00:05:04,639 moment on 83 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:07,039 um i guess i guess 84 00:05:12,150 --> 00:05:09,520 a bit further on down the line you know 85 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:12,160 we all got pulled in with the bob lazar 86 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:14,080 story 87 00:05:20,629 --> 00:05:16,639 yeah yeah that's so funny because in the 88 00:05:22,629 --> 00:05:20,639 early 80s or maybe 85 i read cherry to 89 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:22,639 the gods and i was intensely interested 90 00:05:26,950 --> 00:05:24,720 in that because i thought i grew up 91 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:26,960 catholic and i thought this answers so 92 00:05:30,390 --> 00:05:28,720 many questions that i've had that the 93 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:30,400 priests can't answer and it made a lot 94 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:32,240 of sense to me at the time and then the 95 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:34,479 very next story i got 96 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:36,400 completely obsessed with was bob lazar 97 00:05:40,710 --> 00:05:38,160 in 1989. 98 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:40,720 of course you know so so bubbles are 99 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:44,479 lands and uh that's fascinating on vhs 100 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:46,880 videos and things like that 101 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:48,800 you could buy them 102 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:50,400 um 103 00:05:55,749 --> 00:05:52,400 and then and then of course 104 00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:55,759 the the next one was uh uh stephen greer 105 00:06:01,909 --> 00:05:58,800 landing with uh his uh uh 106 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:01,919 you know disclosure uh uh project the 107 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:04,160 public hearing that he did 108 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:06,639 and that was fascinating and and i 109 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:08,880 followed that for a while and 110 00:06:12,550 --> 00:06:11,280 and and 111 00:06:13,990 --> 00:06:12,560 uh 112 00:06:16,150 --> 00:06:14,000 there was then there was a big 113 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:16,160 convergence people were starting to talk 114 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:18,800 about more about the technical stuff 115 00:06:23,830 --> 00:06:22,160 and i i kind of realized personally that 116 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:23,840 that that there was a 117 00:06:28,390 --> 00:06:26,479 i found what bob lazar was saying a lot 118 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:28,400 problematic and then 119 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:30,400 and then grier started coming out where 120 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:33,520 the c5 stuff 121 00:06:37,110 --> 00:06:35,440 which was also a little sort of 122 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:37,120 far-fetched for me 123 00:06:40,469 --> 00:06:38,160 um 124 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:40,479 but at the same time i was looking for 125 00:06:43,749 --> 00:06:42,720 uh other things so i got into martial 126 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:43,759 arts 127 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:47,280 and um and consciousness stuff i went 128 00:06:53,110 --> 00:06:51,360 over to china i went over to america to 129 00:06:56,309 --> 00:06:53,120 virginia a place called the monroe 130 00:06:58,629 --> 00:06:56,319 institute where they did do uh out of 131 00:07:00,710 --> 00:06:58,639 body experiences and remote viewing so 132 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:00,720 i've been around looking for all kinds 133 00:07:05,589 --> 00:07:04,560 of different truths you know and uh once 134 00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:05,599 uh 135 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:13,919 me back into the ufo subject again and 136 00:07:18,390 --> 00:07:15,360 i've been following it ever since 137 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:18,400 because uh it's really exploded you know 138 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:20,000 there's lots of different people in the 139 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:20,960 field 140 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:22,319 uh 141 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:27,039 people like chris leto coming in and 142 00:07:32,230 --> 00:07:30,400 chucking balloons up in the air and i 143 00:07:33,510 --> 00:07:32,240 always admire people that are that are 144 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:33,520 wanting to 145 00:07:38,070 --> 00:07:35,280 at least try and get some data 146 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:38,080 themselves and go into the field and 147 00:07:44,309 --> 00:07:41,680 and and do stuff you know um yeah yeah 148 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:44,319 that is a that's like a missed there's 149 00:07:49,189 --> 00:07:47,039 no field researchers anymore you know it 150 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:49,199 used to be that there was a ufo sighting 151 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:51,280 and a ufo investigator 152 00:07:55,110 --> 00:07:53,520 would physically get in his car he would 153 00:07:56,150 --> 00:07:55,120 go there he would try to interview 154 00:07:58,469 --> 00:07:56,160 witnesses 155 00:08:00,950 --> 00:07:58,479 now i i think that's sort of a lost art 156 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:00,960 form i try to do that and i've tried to 157 00:08:04,950 --> 00:08:03,199 do it sometimes but it's very difficult 158 00:08:06,950 --> 00:08:04,960 most people if it's not on the internet 159 00:08:09,270 --> 00:08:06,960 now they don't they don't know about it 160 00:08:12,550 --> 00:08:09,280 or they don't find it you know 161 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:12,560 yeah and people people in uh have gotten 162 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:15,280 to uh a bad rep with this because very 163 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:17,759 often people like get a 164 00:08:22,469 --> 00:08:20,160 a uh 165 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:22,479 they get in trouble with the uh aviation 166 00:08:27,189 --> 00:08:24,240 people for uh 167 00:08:28,790 --> 00:08:27,199 shining lasers at pilots and things like 168 00:08:30,869 --> 00:08:28,800 that and 169 00:08:33,829 --> 00:08:30,879 i think i think grey's got a lot to do 170 00:08:35,990 --> 00:08:33,839 with that uh because he advocates using 171 00:08:38,550 --> 00:08:36,000 laser pointers doesn't he to signal to 172 00:08:40,709 --> 00:08:38,560 ufos and that could be very problematic 173 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:40,719 if you're an airplane pilot yeah it's 174 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:42,880 dangerous as hell 175 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:45,120 yeah yeah and uh 176 00:08:49,990 --> 00:08:47,440 and i've spoken to quite a few sort of 177 00:08:52,829 --> 00:08:50,000 amateur pilots because my my youngest 178 00:08:56,389 --> 00:08:52,839 daughter is learning to fly 179 00:08:59,030 --> 00:08:56,399 and they they say it's terrible they 180 00:09:02,070 --> 00:08:59,040 they they definitely don't want to have 181 00:09:02,949 --> 00:09:02,080 laser pointers at them you know 182 00:09:08,150 --> 00:09:02,959 yeah 183 00:09:09,910 --> 00:09:08,160 pundit uh i'm finding my way through the 184 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:09,920 field uh 185 00:09:13,350 --> 00:09:11,440 watching out for 186 00:09:15,509 --> 00:09:13,360 opportunities to reach out to people 187 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:15,519 like you to discuss things 188 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:17,120 you know because it's a fascinating 189 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:19,040 subject 190 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:21,680 and one of the observations that i'm 191 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:22,399 getting 192 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:24,880 from from it at the moment is that 193 00:09:30,550 --> 00:09:28,160 that the ufo community is is is very 194 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:30,560 diverse but also uh 195 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:34,000 i think quite a a um 196 00:09:40,550 --> 00:09:37,200 a vulnerable community and uh people are 197 00:09:43,350 --> 00:09:40,560 very vulnerable to all kinds of uh uh 198 00:09:45,509 --> 00:09:43,360 capture snake oil salesmen you know 199 00:09:48,710 --> 00:09:45,519 people that can come along and and and 200 00:09:50,630 --> 00:09:48,720 take the money and gatekeep and pretend 201 00:09:51,990 --> 00:09:50,640 they know more than they do and things 202 00:09:54,550 --> 00:09:52,000 like that so 203 00:09:57,750 --> 00:09:54,560 uh i'm i'm going to be starting putting 204 00:10:01,509 --> 00:09:57,760 out information in terms of how to spot 205 00:10:04,230 --> 00:10:01,519 um charlatans and leave people at it 206 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:04,240 yeah i call them cosmic con artists or 207 00:10:08,230 --> 00:10:06,640 cosmic con men you know because you're 208 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:08,240 right they seem to have a lot of things 209 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:10,320 in common like they all pretend that 210 00:10:13,350 --> 00:10:12,000 they have some secret knowledge that 211 00:10:15,110 --> 00:10:13,360 they're going to be willing to share 212 00:10:17,910 --> 00:10:15,120 with you it usually involves you paying 213 00:10:19,110 --> 00:10:17,920 them for a course or a book or or 214 00:10:20,069 --> 00:10:19,120 something 215 00:10:21,269 --> 00:10:20,079 that there's 216 00:10:23,030 --> 00:10:21,279 it's like 217 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:23,040 they're all made from the same mold a 218 00:10:27,910 --> 00:10:25,360 lot of them you know 219 00:10:30,150 --> 00:10:27,920 yeah yeah and and uh 220 00:10:32,710 --> 00:10:30,160 steven griez fascinating because you 221 00:10:35,350 --> 00:10:32,720 know he started with his own experiences 222 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:35,360 then then he drags other people into it 223 00:10:39,990 --> 00:10:37,680 with his disclosure project 224 00:10:43,190 --> 00:10:40,000 and then eventually 225 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:43,200 what happens with all of them is that 226 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:44,720 the big problem is there's not enough 227 00:10:49,030 --> 00:10:47,360 data there is never enough 228 00:10:51,590 --> 00:10:49,040 uh new 229 00:10:52,870 --> 00:10:51,600 information coming through so so they 230 00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:52,880 almost 231 00:10:56,470 --> 00:10:54,000 always 232 00:10:58,550 --> 00:10:56,480 then jump off to consciousness 233 00:11:00,630 --> 00:10:58,560 you know and and that's the big thing 234 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:00,640 there that they always say oh it's about 235 00:11:04,550 --> 00:11:02,640 consciousness now you know well you were 236 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:04,560 talking about ufos before and people and 237 00:11:08,389 --> 00:11:06,160 now it's consciousness what's all that 238 00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:08,399 about wells when it's in people's heads 239 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:10,240 you know 240 00:11:14,550 --> 00:11:12,480 it's never ending after that 241 00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:14,560 um you're right i've seen i've seen 242 00:11:18,389 --> 00:11:16,480 steven grier do that i've seen grant 243 00:11:21,590 --> 00:11:18,399 cameron do that and at least a few other 244 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:21,600 people that really began as like nuts 245 00:11:26,630 --> 00:11:22,880 and bolts 246 00:11:29,110 --> 00:11:26,640 these things are machines from aliens 247 00:11:31,509 --> 00:11:29,120 to somehow they're you know 248 00:11:32,230 --> 00:11:31,519 generated by consciousness or or you 249 00:11:34,630 --> 00:11:32,240 know 250 00:11:37,590 --> 00:11:34,640 mental powers controlled by them you fly 251 00:11:40,389 --> 00:11:37,600 the ship with your mind 252 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:40,399 it's maybe it's a lack of material right 253 00:11:44,389 --> 00:11:42,720 there's a such a lack of nuts and bolts 254 00:11:46,389 --> 00:11:44,399 evidence or material that eventually 255 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:46,399 they get to that you know 256 00:11:50,389 --> 00:11:48,320 yeah yeah absolutely so so i think 257 00:11:53,670 --> 00:11:50,399 there's definite progression 258 00:11:55,750 --> 00:11:53,680 you know from from experience to pulling 259 00:11:58,389 --> 00:11:55,760 other people in when you run out of 260 00:12:01,190 --> 00:11:58,399 people to pull into then it's it's it's 261 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:01,200 time to go into sort of uh consciousness 262 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:04,560 or pseudo religion religious aspects 263 00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:06,000 and 264 00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:07,519 that there are there are some people 265 00:12:11,910 --> 00:12:09,040 that that still keep hold of the 266 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:11,920 technology technology terms and i think 267 00:12:15,590 --> 00:12:13,760 grey still does that you know he still 268 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:15,600 talks about the technology well there 269 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:18,000 are other people that almost go sort of 270 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:20,000 pseudo religious and they might talk 271 00:12:24,629 --> 00:12:22,560 about things like biblical stuff like 272 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:24,639 the rapture and things like that and 273 00:12:30,069 --> 00:12:26,240 they start pulling 274 00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:30,079 uh ancient texts in and and it's all 275 00:12:33,990 --> 00:12:33,120 different hooks to get people 276 00:12:35,269 --> 00:12:34,000 uh 277 00:12:36,550 --> 00:12:35,279 talking 278 00:12:39,350 --> 00:12:36,560 but 279 00:12:42,710 --> 00:12:39,360 and it's fascinating how some people 280 00:12:45,829 --> 00:12:42,720 look at ufos and from a technological 281 00:12:48,470 --> 00:12:45,839 perspective and those that that use a 282 00:12:51,269 --> 00:12:48,480 religious religious names for exactly 283 00:12:52,550 --> 00:12:51,279 the same thing and they judge each other 284 00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:52,560 but they're actually talking about the 285 00:12:56,870 --> 00:12:54,160 same thing but they're just using 286 00:12:59,030 --> 00:12:56,880 different nomenclature or words you know 287 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:59,040 uh 288 00:13:04,069 --> 00:13:00,880 i love your accent yeah 289 00:13:06,710 --> 00:13:04,079 say that no no what the main cliche 290 00:13:07,509 --> 00:13:06,720 yeah we say that differently here 291 00:13:10,310 --> 00:13:07,519 really 292 00:13:12,069 --> 00:13:10,320 yeah but that's cool 293 00:13:13,269 --> 00:13:12,079 i can't even say it now because i'm 294 00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:13,279 tongue-tied 295 00:13:18,150 --> 00:13:16,000 nomenclature is it nomenclature that's 296 00:13:20,870 --> 00:13:18,160 how we say nomenclature yeah see english 297 00:13:22,389 --> 00:13:20,880 guys you got you i think i think you 298 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:22,399 english guys just make everything sound 299 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:24,290 fancy on purpose right 300 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:27,760 [Laughter] 301 00:13:32,150 --> 00:13:29,760 you know american accents must sound 302 00:13:35,910 --> 00:13:32,160 really bizarre to you guys too right 303 00:13:37,430 --> 00:13:35,920 it just sounds bizarre right no no we uh 304 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:37,440 we like 305 00:13:41,990 --> 00:13:40,079 yeah yeah well most of our movies 306 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:42,000 we've got american accents you know we 307 00:13:48,629 --> 00:13:44,000 we get all of your movies so so we're 308 00:13:53,189 --> 00:13:50,710 yeah i grew up with a father who liked 309 00:13:55,829 --> 00:13:53,199 english humor and he got a satellite 310 00:13:58,310 --> 00:13:55,839 dish early on just to get english you 311 00:14:00,470 --> 00:13:58,320 know like monty python and that what was 312 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:00,480 that space show that you guys had 313 00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:03,360 besides doctor who yeah he loved english 314 00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:05,680 humor so he got a satellite dish to get 315 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:08,160 to get the english english television 316 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:10,240 you know it's it's world different than 317 00:14:15,910 --> 00:14:12,000 over here 318 00:14:18,629 --> 00:14:15,920 yeah yeah it is it is different and um 319 00:14:19,990 --> 00:14:18,639 but i i think you're i think american 320 00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:20,000 television 321 00:14:25,430 --> 00:14:22,880 is leading the world at the moment uh uh 322 00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:25,440 british television is isn't as good as 323 00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:26,639 it used to be 324 00:14:30,310 --> 00:14:28,560 it's taken a bit of a dive 325 00:14:32,470 --> 00:14:30,320 uh everybody everybody tunes into 326 00:14:34,949 --> 00:14:32,480 netflix now i think that's the big 327 00:14:37,350 --> 00:14:34,959 leader definitely in our country yeah 328 00:14:39,189 --> 00:14:37,360 yeah you mentioned your fascination with 329 00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:39,199 greer did you know 330 00:14:43,269 --> 00:14:40,959 this latest documentary i thought it was 331 00:14:45,430 --> 00:14:43,279 really funny that he's talking about 332 00:14:48,310 --> 00:14:45,440 free energy being suppressed and how 333 00:14:49,829 --> 00:14:48,320 people are hiding it and he had a free 334 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:49,839 energy 335 00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:51,920 charity for a while and raised a half a 336 00:14:55,509 --> 00:14:53,839 million dollars and never produced 337 00:14:56,949 --> 00:14:55,519 anything with that half a million 338 00:14:59,430 --> 00:14:56,959 dollars 339 00:15:02,310 --> 00:14:59,440 well that that that's another 340 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:02,320 of my exploitation red flags that that's 341 00:15:06,629 --> 00:15:04,720 two things uh firstly that's the 342 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:06,639 conspiracy that there's that there's 343 00:15:10,550 --> 00:15:08,320 unseen evil 344 00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:10,560 around you know and and that goes back 345 00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:12,399 to religious times when people would 346 00:15:17,509 --> 00:15:16,560 talk about the devil as being a sort of 347 00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:17,519 uh 348 00:15:22,389 --> 00:15:19,360 particular being that was causing 349 00:15:26,710 --> 00:15:22,399 trouble well now it's unseen people 350 00:15:29,509 --> 00:15:26,720 um and secondly dark alliance yes 351 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:29,519 and and then secondly you've got people 352 00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:30,560 uh 353 00:15:37,509 --> 00:15:35,040 a utopia 354 00:15:39,910 --> 00:15:37,519 you know so so when when greer talks 355 00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:39,920 about this free energy 356 00:15:44,550 --> 00:15:40,639 he 357 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:44,560 seeing sort of 358 00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:46,800 drone footage of 359 00:15:51,110 --> 00:15:48,720 waterfalls and 360 00:15:52,710 --> 00:15:51,120 rainforests and stuff like that you know 361 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:52,720 that's 362 00:15:55,749 --> 00:15:54,560 you've got to save the world with greer 363 00:15:57,749 --> 00:15:55,759 and uh 364 00:16:00,150 --> 00:15:57,759 i think i asked third phase a while ago 365 00:16:01,749 --> 00:16:00,160 i was talking to uh 366 00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:01,759 um uh 367 00:16:07,829 --> 00:16:05,360 uh blake and uh i i asked him uh so so 368 00:16:08,870 --> 00:16:07,839 great wants to save the world is that 369 00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:08,880 who's 370 00:16:14,230 --> 00:16:13,199 and what makes him think that he's going 371 00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:14,240 to 372 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:17,040 you know um and this is these are these 373 00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:19,680 people trying to sell a utopia again you 374 00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:21,440 know they're trying to save the world 375 00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:23,120 the world needs saving does it yeah and 376 00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:24,800 you're right about the utopia because 377 00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:26,880 they say if we just had these 378 00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:29,839 technologies you know uh we'd have free 379 00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:32,560 energy so we would no longer have war 380 00:16:37,189 --> 00:16:34,240 you're exactly right they're selling you 381 00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:37,199 a utopia usually based on free energy or 382 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:39,600 some sort of alien technology you know 383 00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:41,360 we'll have any gravity we'll have all 384 00:16:46,069 --> 00:16:43,759 this crazy medical technology age 385 00:16:48,389 --> 00:16:46,079 regression we'll have free energy so 386 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:48,399 that'll mean no more war and 387 00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:51,440 and we'll live in a new eden sort of and 388 00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:53,040 that's what they're selling people but 389 00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:54,880 they're over promising for sure and 390 00:16:58,069 --> 00:16:56,720 under delivering nobody ever delivers on 391 00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:58,079 anything that they 392 00:17:01,749 --> 00:16:59,920 promise you know 393 00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:01,759 but they always need money they always 394 00:17:06,470 --> 00:17:04,000 need the money though send me the money 395 00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:06,480 yeah but it's seductive isn't it do you 396 00:17:10,309 --> 00:17:08,079 know what i mean because because we all 397 00:17:12,789 --> 00:17:10,319 have our better nature we all we all see 398 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:12,799 that yes this is a great thing to happen 399 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:13,760 you know 400 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:17,280 um and it's very easy to buy into that 401 00:17:22,870 --> 00:17:20,480 um particularly ttsa for instance you 402 00:17:26,549 --> 00:17:22,880 know who who are starting 403 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:26,559 back on their uh road to uh getting more 404 00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:27,360 uh 405 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:28,640 investments 406 00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:31,760 in in what they are doing uh and and i 407 00:17:36,549 --> 00:17:34,400 note that they've got they've got uh 408 00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:36,559 that they're trying to put in a 409 00:17:40,630 --> 00:17:38,799 environmental clause in it 410 00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:40,640 this time as well so when you invest 411 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:42,400 some of that goes to environmental 412 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:45,440 causes i'm not sure how that works but i 413 00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:47,200 haven't looked into it too much but once 414 00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:50,960 again it's utopias it's everybody's 415 00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:53,200 everybody's trying to tie into that even 416 00:17:57,909 --> 00:17:56,160 normal businesses you know 417 00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:57,919 ben and jerry's they make ice cream but 418 00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:59,679 they're also saving the world as well 419 00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:01,360 you know they are 420 00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:03,520 yeah if you didn't know it already being 421 00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:05,360 uh from england they are the most 422 00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:07,520 political one of the most political 423 00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:09,760 companies in the united states 424 00:18:12,870 --> 00:18:11,679 they're always injecting themselves into 425 00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:12,880 political 426 00:18:16,710 --> 00:18:15,360 situations you know like something will 427 00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:16,720 happen and they'll you know i'm 428 00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:18,480 surprised they're not making like mass 429 00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:21,360 murder uh you know prevention ice cream 430 00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:22,880 right now or something they're always 431 00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:24,799 injecting themselves in 432 00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:26,080 but it works for them it made them 433 00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:28,799 famous actually you know 434 00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:31,600 yeah yeah yeah and so it does work this 435 00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:33,600 ideological capture 436 00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:34,720 and 437 00:18:39,909 --> 00:18:36,720 but i think the ufo community is 438 00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:39,919 particularly particularly um 439 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:42,080 susceptible to it and and the reason 440 00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:44,000 being is that that 441 00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:47,440 everybody's living in this space between 442 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:48,720 um 443 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:53,760 there's this little bit in the middle 444 00:18:59,190 --> 00:18:56,640 that says the facts hint at this 445 00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:59,200 but they're not enough to actually 446 00:19:01,669 --> 00:19:00,559 uh 447 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:01,679 prove it 448 00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:04,240 and that's the problem so we all we all 449 00:19:09,029 --> 00:19:06,960 want to move the facts into 450 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:09,039 this area that proves that we're being 451 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:11,520 visited and 452 00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:13,600 that's that makes us particularly 453 00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:17,440 susceptible to people i think you know 454 00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:20,080 yeah and i also think you know i 455 00:19:26,150 --> 00:19:23,360 i i know for me 456 00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:26,160 yeah i know for me 457 00:19:28,789 --> 00:19:27,520 for one second 458 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:28,799 no no 459 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:31,200 i'm sorry i i was playing my own stream 460 00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:33,440 and it was doubling back to me sorry i 461 00:19:38,630 --> 00:19:37,200 uh i know for me that you know i i go 462 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:38,640 i've i've 463 00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:40,640 some would say wasted i've spent so much 464 00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:41,760 time 465 00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:43,840 looking into so many of these different 466 00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:45,039 stories 467 00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:46,960 that when a new one comes along i feel 468 00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:49,200 almost obligated you know like well i've 469 00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:51,280 gone this far down a rabbit hole we'll 470 00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:53,200 we'll get into this story too and see if 471 00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:55,360 there's anything to this or if this is 472 00:20:00,789 --> 00:19:57,760 another hoax or garbage pedal 473 00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:00,799 pedal nonsense story you know 474 00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:02,640 it's about investment you don't want to 475 00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:04,240 admit that it's all [\h__\h] if you've 476 00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:06,400 invested this much time into it but i'm 477 00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:09,919 quick i'm getting there you know 478 00:20:14,549 --> 00:20:12,240 well you know uh 479 00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:14,559 investing all this time isn't isn't 480 00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:17,200 wasted you know if you if you meet good 481 00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:18,240 people 482 00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:20,960 and and you you extend 483 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:23,360 you know the hand of friendship and even 484 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:25,360 if you disagree with people you know 485 00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:28,720 disagreement isn't hate you know and 486 00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:30,559 that that's always been my mantra as 487 00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:32,840 well uh there are plenty of people that 488 00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:35,919 try uh you just exist on twitter for 489 00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:38,320 more i've only been on twitter for 490 00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:40,320 about a week and a half two weeks you 491 00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:42,640 know and 492 00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:46,159 the ad hominem flies in you know people 493 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:48,559 it is toxic over there man i just 494 00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:51,760 blocked i just blocked a very well known 495 00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:54,880 uh twitter ufo twitter troll and all he 496 00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:56,880 spends 10 hours a day arguing with 497 00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:58,480 people on twitter and i just said i'm 498 00:21:01,590 --> 00:21:00,000 not going to waste my time with this 499 00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:01,600 idiot his mind is made up don't bother 500 00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:03,039 him with the facts 501 00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:03,840 so 502 00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:06,080 and and you know if this guy were to 503 00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:08,240 communicate with me respectfully i i 504 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:10,400 would never block anybody even if we 505 00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:13,120 disagree but if it's always like let me 506 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:14,640 tweet something 507 00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:17,760 to uh to humiliate stephen campion or to 508 00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:18,799 you know 509 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:21,280 tell people how stupid he is i'm not 510 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:23,200 gonna i'm not gonna get involved in that 511 00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:25,600 anymore and that's what ufo twitter is 512 00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:26,880 to a large extent but there's good 513 00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:29,600 people too that i like hearing from so i 514 00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:31,039 stay 515 00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:34,640 yeah yeah absolutely um so but as i say 516 00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:36,400 one of the one of those other things 517 00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:38,559 that that i'm particularly concerned of 518 00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:41,679 at the moment is um 519 00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:46,080 the the activism that that's going on uh 520 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:47,760 i 521 00:22:00,870 --> 00:21:59,280 the cause of ufology 522 00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:00,880 in let's say a more politically 523 00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:02,720 aggressive manner 524 00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:05,120 than there has been before uh 525 00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:07,679 that there's there's a trend at the 526 00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:09,679 moment where people are 527 00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:11,840 escalating 528 00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:14,640 minority issues for for their own 529 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:16,559 purposes 530 00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:18,880 and that's that's a concern of mine a 531 00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:20,799 little bit that we might make enemies 532 00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:22,559 from people 533 00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:23,679 that that 534 00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:26,640 that aren't made by us but by people 535 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,470 yeah you're right though about you know 536 00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:34,320 some people are so passionate about this 537 00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:36,400 that it seems like that they could 538 00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,720 you know i worry about things like that 539 00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,720 and i worry about the cult-like aspect 540 00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:42,559 of many of these 541 00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:44,880 you know sort of ufo gurus or ufo 542 00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:47,200 messiahs because some of these people 543 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:49,360 it's like this could turn into heaven's 544 00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:51,600 gate real fast with 545 00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:52,559 the 546 00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:58,320 mentality and 547 00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:00,960 you know attacking critics and it's kind 548 00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:02,880 of crazy 549 00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:05,840 yeah yeah so 550 00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:08,320 what what i'm trying to foster with what 551 00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:11,360 i'm doing is is obviously discussion 552 00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:14,480 uh arming people with with the tools to 553 00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,200 see through these things not necessarily 554 00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:19,360 you know naming names when i do it i 555 00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:21,280 just leave it up to people read it or 556 00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:22,559 whatever 557 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:25,280 but it is interesting how quickly you 558 00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,200 know people reach out to uh try to 559 00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:31,039 sort of 560 00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:33,679 try to defend their position you know 561 00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:35,520 another red flag for me is people who 562 00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:38,559 pretend that quantum physics is somehow 563 00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:39,679 um 564 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:41,279 makes 565 00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:43,600 their fantasies come true 566 00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:45,279 you know um 567 00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:47,120 somebody tried to tell me 568 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:48,840 just today that 569 00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:51,520 um that 570 00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:54,559 that two cars uh went through each other 571 00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:56,720 and passed out the other side and 572 00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:59,279 neither car was uh 573 00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,520 uh harmed 574 00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:03,360 so i said well prove it or it never 575 00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:05,200 happened where's the thing 576 00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:05,919 yeah 577 00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:08,320 it's quantum physics rich that's what it 578 00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:11,360 is yeah physics makes it possible but on 579 00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:12,960 a serious note 580 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,960 i will say that i 581 00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:16,400 have done a lot of reading i've got a 582 00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:18,320 lot of books on physics hero in this big 583 00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:19,840 bookshelf of mine 584 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:21,200 and uh 585 00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:23,600 that that i'm able to wrap my brain 586 00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:25,360 around is pretty fascinating and i've 587 00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:26,960 often thought that 588 00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:29,600 given that the speed of light between 589 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:32,159 worlds is even too slow that there may 590 00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:35,520 be if if aliens are real they may have 591 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,640 developed things like quantum 592 00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:38,400 communication devices that they can 593 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,919 communicate across 594 00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:41,440 you know hundreds of light years 595 00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:43,120 instantaneously through some sort of 596 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,640 quantum connection 597 00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:46,720 or something like that that stuff is 598 00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:48,559 fascinating but you're right these guys 599 00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:51,360 for a while quantum was a buzzword that 600 00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:53,840 these ufo grifters would put in front of 601 00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:55,679 everything they would call it like 602 00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:57,840 quantum consciousness 603 00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:00,880 you know quantum energy quantum you know 604 00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:03,039 ascension they would just put quantum in 605 00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:05,679 front of it like that made it legitimate 606 00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:08,720 yeah cool bell jeremy corbell had his uh 607 00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:10,640 quantum martial arts didn't he because 608 00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:14,710 he used to teach something yeah i 609 00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:17,120 remember rightly and he he actually 610 00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:20,240 he actually pushed it as quantum yeah 611 00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:24,400 so yeah it it happens and um 612 00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:25,760 yeah 613 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:28,159 so so i i go through and i put up these 614 00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:32,320 red flags and uh somebody dived into my 615 00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:34,159 uh 616 00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:38,559 saying hey it's not true that it's not 617 00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:40,240 true 618 00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:43,440 okay all right 619 00:25:48,149 --> 00:25:45,760 yeah if you if if 620 00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:48,159 if you would just like to have arguments 621 00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:50,159 a lot of arguments twitter is the best 622 00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:52,080 place for you to be if you like to argue 623 00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:54,720 with people all day needlessly it's the 624 00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:57,360 greatest place to be you know i i've 625 00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:58,720 learned my lesson though i try to not 626 00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:01,039 get sucked in now i just okay i'm gonna 627 00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:02,720 ignore this person being real nasty to 628 00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:04,960 me or saying i'm an idiot or whatever 629 00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:07,279 you know because if i do reply then 630 00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:09,039 he'll reply and i'll reply and i'm gonna 631 00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:11,120 be there for two hours arguing with 632 00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:12,799 somebody i don't even know who's 633 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,279 probably a fake account anyway you know 634 00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:16,960 there's so many brand new twitter 635 00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:18,799 accounts with like no you know with like 636 00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:21,200 an alien picture for uh 637 00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:23,440 you know for for uh like an alien 638 00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,279 picture for the profile and and they 639 00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:27,279 just signed up last month 640 00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:29,120 yeah and it's 641 00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:32,159 that's just terrible well well manny 642 00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:35,440 manny you know area 502 uh 643 00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,320 he he called out that there was some uh 644 00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,640 twitter activism where it seemed that 645 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,640 there were people i think there's about 646 00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,400 four that i saw that were people were 647 00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:46,320 putting uh 648 00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:48,799 why is nobody talking about the ufo 649 00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:50,640 hearings 650 00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:51,600 and 651 00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:53,919 when you drilled into the likes that sat 652 00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:55,200 underneath it 653 00:27:03,029 --> 00:26:56,480 there were 654 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:03,039 yeah yeah he called that out so so 655 00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:06,480 elon's right uh twitter is rife with uh 656 00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:08,640 manufactured outrage i think you know 657 00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:10,559 and not all of it um 658 00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:11,279 yeah 659 00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,559 human 660 00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,240 yeah and that twitter that whole twitter 661 00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:16,320 deal might get shelved if if they don't 662 00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:18,240 fess up about just how many bots are on 663 00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:20,240 the platform because it seems like they 664 00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:22,640 said it was five percent and he 665 00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:24,240 i think did some sort of independent 666 00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:26,000 audit and found out it's more like 25 667 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:27,039 percent 668 00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:27,840 of 669 00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:29,919 people on twitter are bots or fake or 670 00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:32,399 doubles of other people or sock accounts 671 00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:34,320 that's a lot 672 00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,480 absolutely absolutely and uh 673 00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:41,039 you your average user won't even sort of 674 00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:43,120 pick that up 675 00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:45,760 but but we can spot it fairly quick 676 00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:48,080 because we we're a small community so 677 00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:50,399 all of a sudden you see lots of 678 00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,320 lots of uh uh likes piling in by uh 679 00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:56,480 accounts that have only just had one or 680 00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:58,240 two tweets against them you know that 681 00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:00,880 that's a different to us you know 682 00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:03,679 yeah yeah so it seems to me that there's 683 00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:05,760 definitely some manipulation of the ufo 684 00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:07,600 community that goes on 685 00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:09,919 with bots and and other you know it 686 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:12,080 almost seems like a psyop to me like why 687 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:15,360 would people spend time and resources to 688 00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:18,240 to do that it's bizarro land to me you 689 00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:19,760 know 690 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,799 well 691 00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:22,320 i've been thinking about this you know 692 00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:24,000 when we're talking about ideological 693 00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:25,760 capture and we're talking about some 694 00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:29,039 people gatekeeping uh in terms of uh 695 00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:31,200 their knowledge about ufos and things 696 00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,039 like that 697 00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:35,760 what's happening at the moment the big 698 00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,880 the big ticket thing is the um ufo 699 00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:40,720 hearings isn't it 700 00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,000 and who's who's going to be gatekeeping 701 00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,559 against the government well that's uh 702 00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:48,559 that's going to be mr elizondo and maybe 703 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:50,960 the dod as well so 704 00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:53,200 are we are we seeing a capture of the 705 00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,640 government by the 706 00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:57,120 military and the secret services yeah i 707 00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:58,799 saw your tweet about that you said 708 00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:01,360 gatekeeping they all have they have all 709 00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:02,880 the secrets they hint at knowing 710 00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:04,559 something that is always out of reach 711 00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:05,840 but somehow 712 00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:08,399 if you do what they ask you might uh get 713 00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:10,399 to find out sound familiar you've been 714 00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,440 captured yeah 715 00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:14,880 yeah that does seem to be these 716 00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:16,559 gatekeepers too 717 00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:18,080 and and that relates to other things 718 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,000 like gatekeepers of this secret 719 00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:22,960 knowledge right there's some people that 720 00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:25,120 this elizondo drives me nuts because he 721 00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:28,240 always seems to imply that he's got the 722 00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,640 smoking gun evidence and proof you know 723 00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:32,559 but he can't talk about it because of 724 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,200 his security oath then why bring it up 725 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,120 why hint around about it you know it 726 00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:39,520 seems convenient to me 727 00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:42,559 yeah yeah um i i mean i 728 00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:45,840 i fell for it for a while um and 729 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:47,679 uh you know 730 00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:49,760 you don't know he might be telling the 731 00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:52,840 truth he he might be but 732 00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:56,320 but i i still don't think that they've 733 00:30:01,750 --> 00:29:58,720 got the right uh conditions for him to 734 00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:01,760 be for for us to be able to 735 00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:05,120 uh drill into what he actually 736 00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,880 wants to talk about because at the 737 00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:08,480 moment he'll go and sit before 738 00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:11,520 conference congress and he will still 739 00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:14,559 hide behind his nda because 740 00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:17,760 they need to put some legislation in 741 00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:18,799 to 742 00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:21,440 give him some kind of immunity 743 00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:24,480 so that he can talk with impunity and 744 00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:27,679 they can actually get from him 745 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:32,720 what he knows or what he thinks he knows 746 00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:35,440 without his nda blocking it 747 00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:36,960 because he's he's just going to hide 748 00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,480 otherwise you know 749 00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:40,320 and i agree with you 100 750 00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:42,080 gatekeeping yeah i just heard him 751 00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:44,559 talking to a senator and and he said 752 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,799 nothing for an hour you know he kind of 753 00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:48,960 talked in certain same same act he 754 00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,200 always does it kind of talks in circles 755 00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:53,120 you know there's this unknown threat 756 00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:54,640 we're not doing enough we have to do 757 00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:57,600 more we have to you know uh this could 758 00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:00,320 be a a big threat we have to do more to 759 00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:02,320 find out what's in our skies 760 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:05,519 you know it's talking in circles though 761 00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:07,440 if he really you know i i don't 762 00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:08,480 understand 763 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:10,799 i try to put myself in other people's 764 00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,120 places like if i was this guy and i 765 00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:15,360 really had smoking gun proof that these 766 00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:17,760 things are aliens visiting earth would i 767 00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:20,000 let an nda stop me from dropping that 768 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:23,039 proof i i don't think i would i think 769 00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,240 you know what are they going to do to 770 00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,640 him if if it's really true and he drops 771 00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,799 the proof that it's true 772 00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:30,320 what could they do to him you know 773 00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:33,440 arrest them by that the people would be 774 00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:35,120 people would the whole world would 775 00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:36,720 change and they wouldn't be able to put 776 00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:37,519 that 777 00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:40,159 you know uh toothpaste back in the tube 778 00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:41,519 you know 779 00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:43,760 yeah yeah um 780 00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,960 i i get it i i do get it and and i 781 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:48,799 understand why 782 00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:51,760 he he could sit in this this little 783 00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:54,720 hinterland between sort of like fact and 784 00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,760 rumor 785 00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:58,080 uh because 786 00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:02,080 because that's where he he he's working 787 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,399 and there is a danger to that i mean we 788 00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:06,000 saw what happened to chelsea manning we 789 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:09,039 know we saw we saw what happened to uh 790 00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:11,200 julian assange you know 791 00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,279 uh if if a government really wants to 792 00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:15,600 get their teeth into someone they will 793 00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:19,200 but let's be honest um 794 00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:21,600 i don't see that happening to lou i 795 00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:23,840 really don't you know i don't see the 796 00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:26,320 kind of oppression 797 00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:29,519 that happened to gary mckinnon as well 798 00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,559 um 799 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:32,720 happening to lou and he's been all over 800 00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:36,240 the movies and uh all over tv shows and 801 00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:37,519 things like that 802 00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:40,159 nobody's hooked him to one side and said 803 00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:43,279 stop it you know not that we know of 804 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:46,080 anyway he hasn't mentioned it he 805 00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:49,760 certainly mentioned people are upset but 806 00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:51,440 has he been arrested has he been 807 00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:53,120 detained 808 00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:54,799 no yeah that's what i think about bob 809 00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,720 lazar as well if he was really dropping 810 00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:58,159 top secret information they would have 811 00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,159 rested his ass a long time ago 812 00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:02,159 and there seems to be at least here in 813 00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:06,960 the united states there seems to be uh 814 00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:08,000 this 815 00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:10,480 people use the term whistleblower now 816 00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:12,640 like completely loosely like luella 817 00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:15,200 zondo is a whistleblower corey goode is 818 00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:17,360 a secret space program whistleblower 819 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,480 like that's 820 00:33:23,830 --> 00:33:20,640 garbage because real whistleblowers like 821 00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:23,840 chelsea manning or you know 822 00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:26,399 snowden they have consequences for their 823 00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:28,159 actions and these people never have any 824 00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:29,679 consequences but they claim to be 825 00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:32,000 whistleblowers what information are they 826 00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:33,919 giving us it's garbage information if it 827 00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:35,679 was real the government would prosecute 828 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:36,480 them 829 00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:42,080 yeah exactly exactly so um it it's 830 00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,919 it just seems a bit bit strange so 831 00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:48,240 what we have to think about is 832 00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:51,679 why are they doing it what's their goal 833 00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:53,840 and and i don't think that's clear to us 834 00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:56,000 yet you know i mean they talk about this 835 00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:57,600 they took they they say they want 836 00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:59,039 disclosure 837 00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:01,200 uh but at the same breath and they say 838 00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:02,559 it already has someone who says it's 839 00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:05,120 already happened yeah yeah 840 00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:06,720 the double speak 841 00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:10,079 yeah yeah yeah it it it's very very 842 00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:12,399 strange you know um 843 00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:15,119 yeah to me disclosure would be 100 844 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:16,800 smoking gun proof 845 00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:19,200 that aliens are visiting earth 846 00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,879 that to me would be 847 00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,480 disclosure but for them to say it's 848 00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:24,159 already happened why because we got 849 00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:25,919 three grainy videos out of the pentagon 850 00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:28,159 that proved nothing i i it's just part 851 00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:30,240 of their narrative though i guess 852 00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:32,720 yeah yeah but what are they after that's 853 00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:33,599 the 854 00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:37,280 bottom dollar question to me 855 00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:39,200 oh there you just said it the they're 856 00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:40,800 after the bottom dollar apparently 857 00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,919 because 858 00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:43,440 one thing you'll notice that all these 859 00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:45,040 characters in 860 00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:46,879 ufo land especially 861 00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:49,200 i view it as a pyramid 862 00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:50,639 and there's people at the top of that 863 00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:51,919 pyramid those are the people that are 864 00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:54,079 making literally millions of dollars off 865 00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:55,280 of this 866 00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,879 so to me 867 00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:58,560 once you're making millions of dollars 868 00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:00,960 at a certain profession even if it's all 869 00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:02,400 garbage information 870 00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:04,240 you're not going to stop you know look 871 00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:06,720 at greer he's made millions of dollars 872 00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:08,480 he comes out with a new documentary 873 00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:09,680 every year 874 00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:12,400 and he just repeats for 90 of the the 875 00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:14,560 new documentary he repeats the same crap 876 00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:16,000 that he's been saying for 20 years 877 00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:17,920 without evidence or proof 878 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,720 and 879 00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:20,320 but i guess people keep buying it so he 880 00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:22,240 keeps putting them out 881 00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:25,440 yeah yeah yeah it's uh 882 00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:27,440 if there's people paying for it they'll 883 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:29,599 they'll do it but 884 00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:32,800 i don't i don't know uh i think i mean 885 00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,240 lou's always talking about uh 886 00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:38,240 other other people acting behind the 887 00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:41,920 scenes with all of this so is 888 00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:43,359 is this still 889 00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:46,000 a secret services thing 890 00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:48,640 and if it is it wouldn't just be for 891 00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:51,040 money for them it would be 892 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:52,800 some kind of 893 00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,040 objective that they're going for 894 00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:57,359 no i can't think it is i mean some 895 00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:58,480 people sit 896 00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:01,359 talk talk in the ufo community about uh 897 00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:04,400 they want to confuse the ufo community 898 00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:06,079 or they want to 899 00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:07,520 um 900 00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:10,160 damage the ufo community 901 00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:13,359 it's too small we're not a very big 902 00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:15,680 bunch of people really are we you know 903 00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:17,680 small subculture yeah 904 00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:18,960 yeah so 905 00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:21,280 what's the point 906 00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:22,800 everybody thinks 907 00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:26,720 most of us are crazy anyway so 908 00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:29,359 we're not listened to anyway 909 00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:32,160 other than other than maybe 910 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:33,520 there's there's a few things that i've 911 00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:36,480 got in my head that could could be 912 00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:40,000 uh the first one could be that that 913 00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:42,720 there's been a leak at some point 914 00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:46,320 of of information that's got out 915 00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:47,599 uh 916 00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:49,599 or or 917 00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:51,599 as a community 918 00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:53,359 watch the military too much and they 919 00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:55,760 don't want us to 920 00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,800 so 921 00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:58,560 does that 922 00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:00,640 i think there's another one along the 923 00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:06,390 they might want to 924 00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:08,560 authorize more surveillance 925 00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:10,640 of of 926 00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,560 the country 927 00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,160 you know and they could do that under 928 00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:16,480 the guise of uh 929 00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:18,880 searching for ufos 930 00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:21,520 so it might be that one agency has got a 931 00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,280 set of data 932 00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:25,359 and another agency's got another set of 933 00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:27,440 data and they've got governance that 934 00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:29,599 prevents them from joining it together 935 00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:31,520 and having total mass spectrum 936 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:33,280 surveillance 937 00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:34,320 you know 938 00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,000 you're right and a lot of people aren't 939 00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:38,720 aware i i study black projects as well 940 00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:40,880 as ufos and i've done a lot of research 941 00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:43,680 into black projects a lot of people uh i 942 00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:45,440 don't know about in england but in the 943 00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:47,760 united states people are totally unaware 944 00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:49,839 that the united states military right 945 00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:52,480 now has things like stealth blimps 946 00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:55,359 and uh you know all these crazy projects 947 00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:57,760 trillions of dollars being spent 948 00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:59,359 i believe that they have an incredible 949 00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:01,440 amount more surveillance than they than 950 00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:04,400 they let on that they have you know 951 00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:06,000 and wreaking havoc with the kind in 952 00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:08,320 generous 999 super chat says we all see 953 00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:09,920 how corrupt governments can be and how 954 00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:11,119 someone 955 00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:15,839 government says about uaps to me it's a 956 00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:17,920 huge nothing burger and i agree with you 957 00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:19,359 wreaking havoc thanks for your kindness 958 00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:20,960 generosity and support and the other 959 00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:21,760 thing 960 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:22,880 is that 961 00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,480 the narrative used to be that the 962 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:26,320 government's covering this all up but 963 00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:28,400 lately we're told that former government 964 00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:29,839 people are going to tell us the truth 965 00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:32,000 about those aliens it just it doesn't 966 00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:34,079 make any sense 967 00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:36,400 the narrative switched you know and now 968 00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,880 the narrative is sort of like well yeah 969 00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:40,560 the government did cover it up but there 970 00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:42,000 are good 971 00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:44,160 good people within the government that 972 00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,160 want the secret to come out so they're 973 00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:47,920 working behind the scenes to make that 974 00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:49,280 happen and they're fighting with the 975 00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:50,800 people that don't want it to come out 976 00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:51,520 and 977 00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:53,119 it's bizarre 978 00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:55,680 i've heard another one that one one of 979 00:39:02,310 --> 00:38:58,320 the emerging ones is that there that 980 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:02,320 there is technology that's being held by 981 00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,560 a private contractor 982 00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:06,480 and its government 983 00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,720 its government people that are trying to 984 00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:10,560 wrestle that technology out of that 985 00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:13,200 contractors grasp 986 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:15,440 um that that's another one that seems to 987 00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:18,160 be uh floated at the moment 988 00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:20,079 um 989 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:21,200 yeah 990 00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:24,880 reasons i brought you here i'm sorry i 991 00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:26,880 got a little sidetracked is 992 00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:29,520 i was surprised to know that 993 00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:32,640 there's not this deluge of ufo stories 994 00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:35,359 in england that all of the ufo stuff you 995 00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:37,119 guys get is mostly coming out of the 996 00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:39,359 united states isn't that right 997 00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:42,720 yeah yeah the majority and uh and very 998 00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:44,560 often 999 00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:45,280 we 1000 00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:51,119 you know the guardian covers it uh the 1001 00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:53,839 sun the mail you know so so for those 1002 00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:55,760 that don't know guardians particularly 1003 00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:57,440 sort of like 1004 00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,720 left-wing son and the male 1005 00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,400 male's a little more 1006 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:04,160 uh you got then you've got the right 1007 00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:07,200 wing like the cern and the express they 1008 00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:09,680 all have articles on and they all tend 1009 00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:12,160 to sort of reflect the personality of 1010 00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:14,079 the papers you know so 1011 00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:15,520 some of them are a little more 1012 00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:18,480 sensational um 1013 00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,119 and and then you have the uh 1014 00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:23,359 the the guardian that's that's quite a 1015 00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:25,040 lot more skeptical 1016 00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:28,160 um bbc didn't cover it until alex 1017 00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,359 dietrich 1018 00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:31,599 uh came forward to talk about it you 1019 00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:33,680 know because she was female and the bbc 1020 00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:35,839 are quite a feminist type 1021 00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:38,800 organization so they always say 1022 00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:40,079 i didn't know that so they're very 1023 00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:42,400 liberal and feminist and yeah yeah and 1024 00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:43,920 woke sort of 1025 00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:47,040 yeah yeah very much so so so once they 1026 00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:49,200 found once they found somebody that they 1027 00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,040 could identify with a bit more you know 1028 00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:53,119 they they started covering it and they 1029 00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,960 actually did quite quite an interesting 1030 00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,359 job with it and they brought in they 1031 00:41:02,710 --> 00:40:59,440 brought an indian guy in who i'd never 1032 00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:02,720 seen before to uh speak about it 1033 00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:04,319 um and 1034 00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:06,880 he spoke on a very sort of like high 1035 00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:09,760 level nebulous pseudo-religious 1036 00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:13,200 uh aspects of it um 1037 00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:14,800 so there is that's what he mentioned 1038 00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:16,880 consciousness 1039 00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:21,599 but um 1040 00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:25,040 the most interesting recent one has been 1041 00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:28,400 i suppose it was it was the uh bill 1042 00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:29,760 nelson 1043 00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:33,040 uh announcement that uh nasa was going 1044 00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:36,240 to be uh moving in and investigating 1045 00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:38,960 and i think that came up around the 27th 1046 00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:40,560 of may uh 1047 00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:43,119 recently 1048 00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:47,280 so so they are keeping they are keeping 1049 00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:51,349 but 1050 00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:54,240 i i guess the most interesting thing 1051 00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:55,920 that happened officially was i think 1052 00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:57,359 last year 1053 00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:58,960 they talked about it in the house of 1054 00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:00,960 lords 1055 00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,800 somebody was asking questions in the 1056 00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:04,319 house of lords and they brought somebody 1057 00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:07,599 in from the military to talk about uaps 1058 00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:08,720 because it was 1059 00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:11,200 it was on the back of the uh 1060 00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,319 um 1061 00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:14,319 the uap report 1062 00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:15,359 and 1063 00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:17,119 the military just said 1064 00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:19,920 there's no such thing as ufos we don't 1065 00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:22,000 we don't explore it at all end of 1066 00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,520 subject 1067 00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:25,680 uh it was literally just 1068 00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,400 shut up we don't do this and that was it 1069 00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,040 very very blunt 1070 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:33,040 yeah you know one of the other 1071 00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:34,480 characters that i do when i ask you 1072 00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:36,800 about is nick pope because 1073 00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:39,280 i'm kind of fascinated by 1074 00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:42,880 i suppose the lack of uh 1075 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:45,599 fact checking or research that the the 1076 00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:46,960 u.s 1077 00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,040 mainstream media does because i've seen 1078 00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,760 them on 100 different news stations 1079 00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:53,520 or not a hundred but i've seen them with 1080 00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:56,560 10 different mainstream media news 1081 00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:58,319 outlets and they put right under his 1082 00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:59,599 name 1083 00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:02,000 ran the british ufo 1084 00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:03,200 you know 1085 00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:05,599 british ufo investigator or ran the 1086 00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:08,560 british the secret british ufo 1087 00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:10,480 investigation group 1088 00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:12,800 and you know phil male and others got to 1089 00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:15,119 the british government who put out 1090 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:17,359 letters that said he didn't investigate 1091 00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:20,480 ufos you know he was 1092 00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:22,960 he was a basically like a secretary he 1093 00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:25,200 was an administrative assistant 1094 00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:26,640 at in in 1095 00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,319 in a mod office ministry of defense so 1096 00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:32,400 what is the perception of him over there 1097 00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:34,640 is he perceived as credible over there 1098 00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:36,800 or because he is here and i don't know 1099 00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:37,680 why 1100 00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:39,599 he lied about his background yeah 1101 00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,560 well 1102 00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,880 nick pope is just nick pope you know 1103 00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:45,119 what i mean uh he's i think he's more in 1104 00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:46,720 america than he is in the uk 1105 00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:50,480 occasionally he's on but pretty much 1106 00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:53,200 he's he's in america uh 1107 00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:55,839 doesn't have much to do with the uk now 1108 00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:57,680 um 1109 00:44:02,470 --> 00:43:59,920 i mean i suppose it would be 1110 00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:02,480 a parallel would be i i used to work as 1111 00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:05,200 a clinical archivist 1112 00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:07,599 so i used to scan documents 1113 00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:08,400 all day 1114 00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:14,790 that would be the same as me saying that 1115 00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:17,680 i i was a scientist working on clinical 1116 00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,800 trials 1117 00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:20,160 you know 1118 00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,160 that's exactly the i think that's the 1119 00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,560 level that nick pope was in do you know 1120 00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:26,720 to me and he he he was an admin 1121 00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:29,520 assistant he was an archivist so ufo 1122 00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:31,839 reports might have gone over his desk he 1123 00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,680 might have filed them i don't think it's 1124 00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,000 any more than that yeah but you're right 1125 00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:38,480 he he sort of embellishes it 1126 00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:40,560 and even says he's like the british fox 1127 00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:42,480 mulder which would indicate that he like 1128 00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:44,720 jumped up from his desk ran out and 1129 00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:47,119 investigated those aliens you know 1130 00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:49,280 alien sightings or alien abductions or 1131 00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:52,079 ufo sightings and he never did any of 1132 00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:53,520 those things 1133 00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:55,599 and i'm kind of shocked that 1134 00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:58,480 the united states media just accepts him 1135 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:00,560 for what he says you know it makes me 1136 00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:03,040 want to go say you know i don't know i 1137 00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:04,960 could go say i'm a you know 1138 00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:05,920 i don't know 1139 00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,560 nuclear physicist expert or something 1140 00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,240 you know like would they check 1141 00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:12,160 apparently not because they just put 1142 00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:14,240 right under his name like british ufo 1143 00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:16,000 expert okay 1144 00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,599 yeah you 1145 00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:19,520 i suppose if you if you're studying the 1146 00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:21,920 field you're a ufo expert aren't you you 1147 00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:24,160 know it doesn't really mean much 1148 00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:27,280 ufo experts then yeah yeah yeah you know 1149 00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,560 my my definition of an expert an ex is a 1150 00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:32,720 has been that the spurt is a drip under 1151 00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:34,640 pressure 1152 00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:36,319 somebody's mentioning that nick pope 1153 00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:38,079 charges 50 dollars a question i don't 1154 00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:40,640 know about that but he he did for a time 1155 00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:42,560 i have the screenshots of it he did for 1156 00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:44,079 a time offer 1157 00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:46,640 that you could get a skype call from him 1158 00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:50,079 for fifty dollars for five minutes 1159 00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:52,720 and at some of his ufo appearances you 1160 00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:54,480 can you could take a picture with him 1161 00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:56,000 and do a meet and greet for fifty 1162 00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:57,440 dollars or something like that that's 1163 00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,480 where this 1164 00:46:02,550 --> 00:46:00,640 these rumors of of nick pope he really 1165 00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,560 needs fifty dollars because he charges 1166 00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:04,000 people fifty dollars for like a 1167 00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:06,240 handshake and an autograph 1168 00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:08,720 at some of these ufo conferences 1169 00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:11,040 that's that's some ufo celebrity [\h__\h] 1170 00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:12,800 right there you know i'm in the wrong 1171 00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:15,760 business yeah wow fifty dollars for five 1172 00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:18,400 minutes wow 1173 00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:19,680 yeah 1174 00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:24,400 either well uh lindemont hell charges a 1175 00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,079 hundred dollars for an autograph on our 1176 00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:28,800 books at those conferences 1177 00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,640 that's interesting yeah you got to pay 1178 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:32,160 her a hundred dollars to sign the book 1179 00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:37,750 good grief i really am in the wrong 1180 00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:39,520 business yeah 1181 00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,400 yeah so i i didn't realize that 1182 00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:44,240 and this is once again what i was saying 1183 00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:46,960 about people vulnerable to to this kind 1184 00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:48,880 of capture 1185 00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:49,680 um 1186 00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:52,400 most celebrities will sit in waterstones 1187 00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:54,160 or someplace like that and happily sign 1188 00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:56,720 off books and then then walk off 1189 00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:59,200 people don't need to pay it so 1190 00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:00,880 why wouldn't 1191 00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,480 uh linda molten how do it you know 1192 00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,560 yeah somebody's mentioning she's another 1193 00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:08,480 oh and thank you anthony peterson for 1194 00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:09,839 your kind of generous two dollar super 1195 00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:11,920 chat he says i want to believe 1196 00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:13,839 so do i but all these con artists make 1197 00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:16,400 it really hard to after a while i think 1198 00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:18,319 i'm getting bitter and jaded rich i 1199 00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:20,079 really am getting bitten jaded you know 1200 00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:22,800 with like each new revelation okay this 1201 00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:29,510 well do you know what i find though it 1202 00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:32,160 really has expanded my my sort of 1203 00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:33,839 knowledge because 1204 00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:35,599 you you have somebody coming along and 1205 00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:38,480 they're going to make ludicrous claims 1206 00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:39,359 uh 1207 00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:41,680 and what do you do you 1208 00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,319 you you go away and you research 1209 00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:45,680 so you 1210 00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:48,000 someone someone goes on about 1211 00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:50,400 quantum physics so i go okay 1212 00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:52,480 let me go and look up quantum physics so 1213 00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,480 i go and look it up and i find there's 1214 00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:56,079 tons and tons of different theories 1215 00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:58,559 about it so i follow them and i actually 1216 00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:59,920 know quite 1217 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,119 a lot about 1218 00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,839 quantum physics in fact enough about it 1219 00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:05,680 to know that i don't know anything about 1220 00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,480 it 1221 00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:08,079 that's how i feel and i've read a lot of 1222 00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:09,760 books i still can't get my brain around 1223 00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:14,079 some of it yeah yeah so so if i if i 1224 00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:17,520 delve into it and i can't find in it 1225 00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:19,920 anywhere to do with what these people 1226 00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:21,359 claim 1227 00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:22,640 then 1228 00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:27,920 i've learned something throughout this 1229 00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:29,920 so i'm quite happy for people to come 1230 00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:32,319 and make ridiculous claims you know uh 1231 00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:35,760 and if it if it means that i can go away 1232 00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:39,119 and learn more for myself then 1233 00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,280 all that's all good you know i'm quite 1234 00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:43,680 happy i've come out of it 1235 00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:46,480 cleverer than i went in 1236 00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,960 yeah get i i suppose you're right and i 1237 00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,480 certainly enjoy 1238 00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:53,040 i i really enjoy my time like uh 1239 00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,800 researching things and investigating 1240 00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:57,119 them no matter what the outcome of of 1241 00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:00,079 the situation i i have a good time i do 1242 00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:02,400 a lot of phone work which is weird i get 1243 00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,760 a lot of information just from picking 1244 00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:06,160 up the phone and calling people and 1245 00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:08,000 seems like if it's not like i said i 1246 00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:09,760 call them right click researchers if 1247 00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:11,200 it's not on the internet people don't 1248 00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:13,359 find it you can get a lot of information 1249 00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:14,800 just call picking up the phone and 1250 00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,720 calling people within the government or 1251 00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:18,720 you know i've i've talked to police i've 1252 00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:21,280 talked to fbi i'm surprised 1253 00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:22,640 and uh 1254 00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:24,000 you know and i'm kind of self-taught 1255 00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:25,359 like i don't know how to do that so i 1256 00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:26,640 just tell them that i'm working on a 1257 00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:29,440 story they don't really ask for who most 1258 00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:30,800 of the time and they're willing to help 1259 00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:31,920 you you know 1260 00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:33,839 it's interesting but yeah i've enjoyed 1261 00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:35,680 my time even if i find out that people 1262 00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,240 are full [\h__\h] or the story's fake 1263 00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:40,160 yeah yeah i feel accomplished like okay 1264 00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:42,559 i've gotten that i've established here's 1265 00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:44,960 the reasons we found that the story is 1266 00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:46,640 fake and i can report it back to the 1267 00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:48,079 audience and 1268 00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:50,480 you know it's one more off the list you 1269 00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:52,079 know 1270 00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:54,240 and and this this is the value of doing 1271 00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,839 all of this you know um 1272 00:50:02,549 --> 00:49:58,400 and 1273 00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:02,559 if if people can just get over 1274 00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:05,839 their beliefs and and just realize that 1275 00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:08,160 that it is a belief and it's okay to 1276 00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:10,880 have a belief and it's okay to accept 1277 00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:14,000 that that belief might not be right 1278 00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:16,079 you know and and if you can do that then 1279 00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:19,119 this journey becomes a lot more easier 1280 00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:21,920 and a lot more um 1281 00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,800 uh 1282 00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,720 maybe more enjoyable it may be more 1283 00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:26,640 enjoyable they're not like bitter and 1284 00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,720 angry about it you know 1285 00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:30,480 yeah yeah because 1286 00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:32,160 because at the end of the day it is a 1287 00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:35,359 belief the facts don't support what we 1288 00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:36,880 all want to happen 1289 00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:39,040 they just don't you know 1290 00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:41,200 they're almost there and there's plenty 1291 00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:44,160 of innuendo and rumor there's 1292 00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:47,280 possibilities yeah yeah absolutely and 1293 00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:50,240 we can't say it can't happen because we 1294 00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:53,440 don't know what is impossible you know 1295 00:51:01,589 --> 00:50:54,480 so 1296 00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:01,599 have to say it's a belief and 1297 00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:03,680 that's it you know it's like a religion 1298 00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:05,760 you're right like i can't i can't prove 1299 00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:08,559 to you that jesus even existed i believe 1300 00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:11,200 it though i believe it but i can't 100 1301 00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:13,599 percent even prove that that that man 1302 00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,440 called jesus christ actually walked the 1303 00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,680 earth and existed as people said he did 1304 00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,440 i could show you evidence that he did i 1305 00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:21,599 could show you the scriptures but at the 1306 00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:24,160 end of the day i i have to go on faith 1307 00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:26,000 and that's how a lot of this works too 1308 00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:28,160 you know the problem is when you get to 1309 00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:29,760 these people that 1310 00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:31,280 i call it like 1311 00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:32,160 you know 1312 00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:34,000 some of these people are like 1313 00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:35,520 they don't have evidence or proof and 1314 00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:37,760 it's just like dude trust me this is 1315 00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:40,400 true you know that's not enough for me i 1316 00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:42,319 gotta have more you know i gotta have 1317 00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:43,599 some kind of 1318 00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,160 verifiable evidence 1319 00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:48,319 and this is the problem with with some 1320 00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:51,040 of the test testimony that we're getting 1321 00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:53,520 at the moment from the military uh 1322 00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:56,400 people just sit there and go is an f if 1323 00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:58,800 he's an f 18 pilot 1324 00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:00,319 you know what 1325 00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,200 uh are you going to take his word over 1326 00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,520 it and i go well his word is more 1327 00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:07,839 informed than most people 1328 00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:08,720 you know 1329 00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,800 but but at the end of the day it's still 1330 00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:12,960 an appeal to authority 1331 00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:15,440 you know which is a logical fallacy 1332 00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:16,960 um 1333 00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:18,880 at the end of the day everybody can make 1334 00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:21,359 a mistake or somebody can look at 1335 00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:24,480 something and it may look and move like 1336 00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:25,680 a a 1337 00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,240 an alien spaceship or you think it was 1338 00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:30,720 an alien spaceship but it might not be 1339 00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:32,880 you know it might be something else you 1340 00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,760 know 1341 00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:35,839 it could be counter measures 1342 00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:37,200 it could be 1343 00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:39,440 drone technology that that somebody's 1344 00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:42,400 deployed you know we don't know yet you 1345 00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:44,880 know um 1346 00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:46,559 and and that's that's a different thing 1347 00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,480 as well that everybody 1348 00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:50,160 everybody says 1349 00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:52,960 that the these ufos are aliens and they 1350 00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:55,440 always have been aliens since time 1351 00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,520 immemorial now it might be that some in 1352 00:53:01,670 --> 00:52:59,680 the past might have been the ones that 1353 00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:01,680 we're looking at now might not be they 1354 00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,680 might be something else 1355 00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:05,680 you know um that there's a lot of 1356 00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:08,079 different things that it could be and it 1357 00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:09,440 could have been at different things at 1358 00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,240 different times you know 1359 00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,480 yeah absolutely right i i 1360 00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:16,319 and also i have a real problem with 1361 00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:18,800 those people who go right to 1362 00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:20,800 go right to aliens you know it seems 1363 00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:22,400 like some people just want to believe so 1364 00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:24,880 badly we're seeing videos that are very 1365 00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,839 clearly birds with flapping wings but 1366 00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:30,000 people are saying no it's it's uap and 1367 00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:31,920 people are still on twitter right now as 1368 00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,480 we speak arguing that those aren't birds 1369 00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:36,480 if you zoom in on the on the objects in 1370 00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:38,559 the video you very clearly see something 1371 00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:40,800 flapping so to me 1372 00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:41,599 it's 1373 00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:46,319 but to some of these people that are so 1374 00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:48,400 invested in believing 1375 00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:49,280 you know 1376 00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:52,079 but this is this is nyuap discussion 1377 00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:57,829 yeah 1378 00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:00,720 i'm a bit concerned that that 1379 00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:05,280 i i i dropped him a note and i said uh 1380 00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:07,280 i suppose you'd have to tell me how much 1381 00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,400 but can you tell me did you pay i saw 1382 00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:12,640 that yeah and he didn't say anything he 1383 00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:15,280 hasn't replied so i'm i'm not going to 1384 00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,400 imply anything but i am concerned that 1385 00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:20,880 you know himself and people like jeremy 1386 00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:23,520 corbell you know 1387 00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:25,520 there's this there's possibly people 1388 00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:27,359 going look 1389 00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,280 took me a couple of thousand bucks and 1390 00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:31,520 i'll give you uh uh 1391 00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:34,640 a uap video and you can you can 1392 00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:37,520 sell it on the internet or whatever 1393 00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:39,440 i do i do wonder whether that some of 1394 00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:41,359 that financial exploitation might be 1395 00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,799 going on to some of these smaller 1396 00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:44,079 channels 1397 00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:45,839 yeah and there's a there's another issue 1398 00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:47,680 with that and that is that 1399 00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:50,480 i am questioning right now 1400 00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:53,839 what is the legality of taking a u.s 1401 00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:57,280 government funded video 1402 00:55:01,589 --> 00:54:59,359 that the taxpayers are paying the bill 1403 00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:01,599 for and then giving it to a private 1404 00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:04,000 individual who will then sell it at a 1405 00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:06,480 ufo conference for cash 1406 00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:08,880 i don't i don't know how that's legal 1407 00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:11,359 except that i doubt there's a law that 1408 00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,119 covers that you know what i mean like 1409 00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:15,599 they're not they didn't anticipate ufo 1410 00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:18,319 grifters so there's there's probably 1411 00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,240 no law that covers it but it just 1412 00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:21,839 doesn't make sense to me 1413 00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:24,319 you know oh and thanks martin wright as 1414 00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:26,000 well i just wanted to make sure that we 1415 00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:27,520 got all the super chats we always share 1416 00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:28,880 them all we've got 1417 00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:31,200 anthony peterson want to believe 1418 00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,280 yeah we did get them all 1419 00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:35,040 so i i know that you're short on time 1420 00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,119 and so am i today so we're going to wrap 1421 00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:39,280 things up here what what is it that 1422 00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,520 you're going to be this is my last 1423 00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:43,520 question and thanks uh wreaking havoc as 1424 00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:44,400 well 1425 00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:46,720 what is it that you're going to be 1426 00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:48,960 focused on or looking into in the next 1427 00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:51,119 couple of months 1428 00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:52,640 well 1429 00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:54,559 i suppose a lot of my 1430 00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:56,720 is a couple of things really the the 1431 00:56:03,349 --> 00:55:59,920 first thing is that we need to keep a 1432 00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:03,359 close eye on the disclosure process as 1433 00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:06,799 it's happening at the moment with uh 1434 00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:09,040 elizondo and is there going to be any 1435 00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:11,760 other hearings and who they're going to 1436 00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:13,920 call in etc that kind of thing that's 1437 00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,400 going to be fascinating 1438 00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:18,559 i'd i'd like 1439 00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:20,160 to 1440 00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:23,280 engage more with the ufo community 1441 00:56:29,430 --> 00:56:26,480 and i'll put it out on this channel here 1442 00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:31,910 do you feel vulnerable or exploited 1443 00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:33,359 sometime 1444 00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:35,839 you know uh let's have a discussion 1445 00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:38,559 let's have a discussion around this um i 1446 00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:40,000 don't want to 1447 00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:44,960 expose anybody or or or hurt them but if 1448 00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:47,920 people feel that they are under 1449 00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:50,960 uh pressure from somebody to 1450 00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:52,000 uh 1451 00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:55,440 be an activist or spread the word 1452 00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:58,079 or or do any of these things that that 1453 00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:59,440 that occult 1454 00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:01,520 type activities 1455 00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:02,480 you know 1456 00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:03,680 let me know 1457 00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:07,040 um and let's and and let's just discuss 1458 00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:07,920 it 1459 00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:08,799 um 1460 00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:10,799 it's it's important 1461 00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:13,760 that we we don't 1462 00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:17,280 become exploited either financially uh 1463 00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:20,559 politically or personally 1464 00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:22,960 yeah or emotionally like a lot of cults 1465 00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:24,799 will play on your emotions there's got 1466 00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:27,440 to be a reason you know i i've seen some 1467 00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:28,559 rabid 1468 00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:34,160 people's critics you know like we've 1469 00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:35,440 seen this 1470 00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:38,960 doxxing and harassment and and it is 1471 00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:41,520 crazy it's it's cult-like that somebody 1472 00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:42,960 would go you know what i'm gonna do i'm 1473 00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:45,440 gonna perform an illegal act because i 1474 00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:46,960 don't like what that guy said about my 1475 00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:48,480 ufo hero 1476 00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:50,960 but that happens so that those people 1477 00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:53,200 are being manipulated and exploited 1478 00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:55,680 somehow to get to that point of 1479 00:57:59,589 --> 00:57:57,920 fervent you know adoration that they're 1480 00:58:02,870 --> 00:57:59,599 willing to risk 1481 00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:02,880 committing a crime to attack somebody's 1482 00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:04,960 critics it's crazy well we could see 1483 00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:06,319 what was happening to stephen green 1484 00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:09,200 street couldn't we you know with um 1485 00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:12,880 uh on on the uh uh 1486 00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:15,359 what's his name uh lou 1487 00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:18,960 from ucr yeah yeah ucr you know and uh 1488 00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:21,680 him getting notes to 1489 00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:25,280 say that he was a felon you know and 1490 00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:27,920 i don't know if somebody's done a crime 1491 00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:29,599 and they've done their time 1492 00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:35,190 let him get on with it so dragging up 1493 00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:36,720 someone's passion well i i actually 1494 00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:39,040 don't think that he is in fact 1495 00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:41,119 of the three people mentioned on that 1496 00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,400 list 1497 00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:44,079 or i'm sorry of the five people 1498 00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,480 mentioned in that text exchange i 1499 00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:48,400 verified with three of them 1500 00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:50,400 they're not convicted felons i haven't 1501 00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:52,559 heard back from two of them right but 1502 00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:53,839 i've got 1503 00:58:58,069 --> 00:58:56,079 messages on the record statements from 1504 00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:58,079 two of them which i guess i mean i could 1505 00:59:02,630 --> 00:59:00,559 say it's blake and brent cousins they 1506 00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:02,640 said it live on air with me they're not 1507 00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:05,839 felons and uh john from the black vault 1508 00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:07,839 told me no i'm not a felon and i'll pay 1509 00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:09,760 you if you want to do a background check 1510 00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:11,440 and prove it i'll pay for the background 1511 00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,640 check so 1512 00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:14,400 there's three of the five people 1513 00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:15,920 mentioned on that list that leaves green 1514 00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:18,400 street and greer who honestly i just 1515 00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:20,079 doubt they're both felons greer because 1516 00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:21,760 he was a medical doctor 1517 00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:23,520 i mean he may be but i don't think so 1518 00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:24,799 and and 1519 00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:26,480 you know a lot of people gave green 1520 00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:28,240 street flack for just not answering the 1521 00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:29,520 question 1522 00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:31,119 but it's his right to keep his privacy 1523 00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,400 and say i'm just not going to answer 1524 00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:34,240 this it's it's garbage you know 1525 00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:38,079 certainly exactly you know and um 1526 00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:39,839 yeah it's 1527 00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:41,119 say it's 1528 00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:43,760 it's just let let's just keep talking 1529 00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:45,599 let's keep looking after each other 1530 00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:48,000 let's keep but you know if somebody 1531 00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:48,880 feels 1532 00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:50,720 under any pressure or something like 1533 00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:52,319 that let's 1534 00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:54,400 let's bring this into the light 1535 00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:57,200 and and back people up if they are being 1536 01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:59,760 knocked down or or anything like that 1537 01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:01,680 you know 1538 01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:03,359 yeah i mean i'm fine with disagreements 1539 01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:05,680 but sometimes people take this just a 1540 01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:07,599 simple disagreement way too far and i 1541 01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:09,680 mean i'm passionate i'm guilty of that 1542 01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:12,160 myself you know right 1543 01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:14,160 it gets it gets out of hand when people 1544 01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:16,799 start uh really trying to damage the 1545 01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:19,280 other person you know 1546 01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:23,280 yeah yeah i i agree it can get tough and 1547 01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:24,880 um 1548 01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:26,240 i 1549 01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:29,359 to be honest because 1550 01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:31,520 um 1551 01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:33,359 it's 1552 01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:34,880 some sometimes 1553 01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:37,359 things get escalated too high don't they 1554 01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:38,160 and 1555 01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:40,079 uh yeah it's hard to pull it back yeah 1556 01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:42,720 it's hard it's it is hard to back down i 1557 01:00:50,069 --> 01:00:48,150 right well listen now we're right on the 1558 01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:50,079 hour here so i know it's like by the way 1559 01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:51,760 i just want to thank you but for the 1560 01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:53,440 audience that doesn't know it's like 1561 01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:55,520 three o'clock in the morning where rich 1562 01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:57,520 is right now and he still agreed to do 1563 01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:58,319 this 1564 01:01:01,990 --> 01:01:00,480 uh a really good guy and i'm glad that 1565 01:01:04,309 --> 01:01:02,000 you did this don't be a stranger i hope 1566 01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:04,319 you come back we're gonna do a big panel 1567 01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:07,040 for uh our two year anniversary july 5th 1568 01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:09,359 you're welcome to come to that as well 1569 01:01:13,990 --> 01:01:11,599 we'd like to welcome back all previous 1570 01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:14,000 guests to that big panel show 1571 01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:15,680 so you're welcome 1572 01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:17,040 thank you 1573 01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:18,480 all right i'm going to throw you on out 1574 01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:21,040 of here feel free to bounce on out 1575 01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:22,720 thank you rich 1576 01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:24,400 all right so now we've got a little more 1577 01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,359 perspective from over the pond 1578 01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:29,200 and uh interesting 1579 01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:30,319 that 1580 01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:32,880 maybe uh 1581 01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:34,480 it's interesting to me he's got 1582 01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:36,160 interesting perspectives into a lot of 1583 01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:38,400 this i like to see other people's 1584 01:01:42,549 --> 01:01:39,760 sort of 1585 01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:42,559 what they think is going on and and how 1586 01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:45,200 they perceive some of these things 1587 01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:46,079 uh 1588 01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:47,839 interesting to hear some of his thoughts 1589 01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:53,349 yeah so i've got just a few i got a 1590 01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:54,720 little bit more time if there's any 1591 01:01:59,029 --> 01:01:56,640 questions or comments from me please put 1592 01:02:00,309 --> 01:01:59,039 them in all caps we want to thank each 1593 01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:00,319 and every one of you for joining us we 1594 01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:02,799 want to thank our wonderful guests rich 1595 01:02:08,630 --> 01:02:06,400 ufo tech from across the pond 1596 01:02:12,069 --> 01:02:08,640 and we definitely want to thank our 1597 01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:12,079 patreon supporters paypal donators we'll 1598 01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:13,760 check in with that as well for those 1599 01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:16,000 unaware you can send a paypal donation 1600 01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:18,079 you can become a patreon supporter for 1601 01:02:22,710 --> 01:02:19,520 as little as a dollar a month you can 1602 01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:22,720 send a paypal donation or you can use 1603 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1619 01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:09,200 uh or i'm sorry kind and generous 1620 01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:11,520 250 so thank you very much for your 1621 01:03:15,589 --> 01:03:12,960 kindness your generosity and your 1622 01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:15,599 support for those are aware i do extra 1623 01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:16,720 content 1624 01:03:21,029 --> 01:03:18,880 on patreon we need to put things behind 1625 01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:21,039 a paywall but the paywall is only a 1626 01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:22,240 dollar 1627 01:03:25,270 --> 01:03:23,599 so you could join patreon for as little 1628 01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:25,280 as a dollar a month and you get the 1629 01:03:30,789 --> 01:03:27,920 extra goodies uh this month i put up 1630 01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:30,799 some songs you've got a couple of videos 1631 01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:32,880 and a couple of videos 1632 01:03:36,789 --> 01:03:35,440 preview before they were debuted on the 1633 01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:36,799 main channel 1634 01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:39,119 also we have memberships now there is a 1635 01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:41,920 join button and i'm going to 1636 01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:44,880 honor those kind and generous members of 1637 01:03:50,470 --> 01:03:47,520 our channel every show that i remember 1638 01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:50,480 pardon me if i don't and we will call 1639 01:03:55,270 --> 01:03:53,280 out our our members on each and every 1640 01:03:57,029 --> 01:03:55,280 show to thank them for their kindness 1641 01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:57,039 their generosity and their support of 1642 01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:00,160 the show so the uh the paypal is a 1643 01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:02,079 dollar you get all these extra goodies 1644 01:04:07,750 --> 01:04:04,559 and the member the channel membership is 1645 01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:07,760 five dollars a month but you get some 1646 01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:10,079 youtube benefits and priority you get a 1647 01:04:14,230 --> 01:04:11,599 member badge 1648 01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:14,240 and you also get all of the patreon 1649 01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:16,559 benefits which i post to our members 1650 01:04:20,870 --> 01:04:18,079 section here 1651 01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:20,880 let me look at our members here 1652 01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:23,200 i'm going to see all our members thanks 1653 01:04:29,109 --> 01:04:25,520 to member tina 1654 01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:29,119 teeden carolyn burnett andy cartier 1655 01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:32,720 fraps app annie kurtz 1656 01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:34,960 babbs williamson 1657 01:04:38,710 --> 01:04:36,400 uh 1658 01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:38,720 is appraised the cash member gary arnold 1659 01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:41,160 has appraised the cash member we have 1660 01:04:45,829 --> 01:04:43,440 fernandulax and i'm doing much better at 1661 01:04:48,549 --> 01:04:45,839 pronouncing that for an ambulance every 1662 01:04:50,789 --> 01:04:48,559 time i say it thank you to reload reload 1663 01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:50,799 and also sid vich for being a channel 1664 01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:52,079 member 1665 01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:54,400 uh this is a viewer supported show 1666 01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:55,680 uh so 1667 01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:58,799 it really does help to uh to support the 1668 01:05:01,829 --> 01:05:00,960 show and keep the show going 1669 01:05:05,430 --> 01:05:01,839 so 1670 01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:05,440 uh success is reminding everyone how you 1671 01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:06,960 can become a member 1672 01:05:12,230 --> 01:05:09,119 and of course the link to join patreon 1673 01:05:14,309 --> 01:05:12,240 as well is in the about section or is in 1674 01:05:15,910 --> 01:05:14,319 the about of this video in the 1675 01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:15,920 description also 1676 01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:17,760 important to let people know that since 1677 01:05:21,670 --> 01:05:19,920 i hate putting people behind a paywall 1678 01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:21,680 and it's only a dollar if you really 1679 01:05:25,109 --> 01:05:22,960 like the show and you're having a tough 1680 01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:25,119 time all you have to do is email me at 1681 01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:27,599 trueseekershow gmail.com 1682 01:05:32,230 --> 01:05:30,079 and i will include you we have an email 1683 01:05:33,029 --> 01:05:32,240 list for people that are you know 1684 01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:33,039 uh 1685 01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:38,319 realize it is really you know tough out 1686 01:05:40,710 --> 01:05:39,839 there right now so 1687 01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:40,720 look 1688 01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:42,000 i hate putting these things behind a 1689 01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:44,160 paywall even though it's a dollar so if 1690 01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:45,520 you're really a big supporter of the 1691 01:05:49,390 --> 01:05:47,039 show and you'd like to get those 1692 01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:49,400 benefits just email me at 1693 01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:52,559 truthseekershow gmail.com i don't need 1694 01:05:55,670 --> 01:05:54,160 to know all the specifics just say hey 1695 01:05:59,349 --> 01:05:55,680 having a tough time i would like to be 1696 01:06:01,829 --> 01:05:59,359 on the patreon email list and every 1697 01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:01,839 month when i post the email or patreon 1698 01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:04,640 benefits i i send out to those people on 1699 01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:06,640 the email list 1700 01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:08,720 the same benefits and and again that's 1701 01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:11,680 true seeker show gmail.com 1702 01:06:15,190 --> 01:06:13,920 also looking for new guests so 1703 01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:15,200 if you have 1704 01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:17,200 an interest in strange and esoteric 1705 01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:19,359 subjects if you have had strange and 1706 01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:22,240 esoteric experiences or mysterious 1707 01:06:26,069 --> 01:06:24,000 experiences 1708 01:06:30,309 --> 01:06:26,079 please do email me at truthseekershow 1709 01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:33,990 to tarot is saying he'll email me great 1710 01:06:39,109 --> 01:06:36,400 and he's in the live chat or excuse me 1711 01:06:41,589 --> 01:06:39,119 he's in the facebook live chat welcome 1712 01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:41,599 to all our facebook live viewers 1713 01:06:45,430 --> 01:06:43,520 doterra heller is there and says i keep 1714 01:06:47,750 --> 01:06:45,440 an eye open my friends promise me that 1715 01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:47,760 if it looks bad grab your beautiful 1716 01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:49,520 family and head to the cabin i agree 1717 01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:51,280 that's one of the reasons i have it uh 1718 01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:53,520 jatero heller is 1719 01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:55,839 having a bug out location it's very safe 1720 01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:58,240 at my cabin and also there's plenty of 1721 01:07:03,029 --> 01:07:00,160 protein walking around in those woods 1722 01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:03,039 there is deer galore we've got pheasants 1723 01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:05,520 we've got wild turkey in a survival 1724 01:07:11,589 --> 01:07:08,079 situation oh and there's lakes all over 1725 01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:11,599 all around the cabin filled with uh bass 1726 01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:14,240 and trout and catfish and all kind of 1727 01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:15,839 fish so 1728 01:07:19,510 --> 01:07:18,480 if if i was in a survival situation i 1729 01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:19,520 take 1730 01:07:23,349 --> 01:07:21,440 that very seriously when it comes to my 1731 01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:23,359 children and my family no matter what 1732 01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:25,760 happens my children still have to eat so 1733 01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:27,760 one of the reasons i have the cabin is 1734 01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:30,000 because it's perfect it's situated 1735 01:07:34,069 --> 01:07:32,480 perfectly in a survival situation we've 1736 01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:34,079 got hunting supplies there fishing 1737 01:07:39,029 --> 01:07:37,440 supplies there prepping supplies there 1738 01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:39,039 you know i've got extra batteries we've 1739 01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:41,920 got a solar system there 1740 01:07:45,990 --> 01:07:44,640 if i was in a survival situation 1741 01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:46,000 that would be 1742 01:07:51,589 --> 01:07:49,200 a dream place to be it's well stocked 1743 01:07:54,309 --> 01:07:51,599 and prepared for just such an event 1744 01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:54,319 and i try to not be too 1745 01:08:00,390 --> 01:07:57,920 uh apocalyptic but i will tell you all 1746 01:08:01,910 --> 01:08:00,400 my friends and audience members that 1747 01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:01,920 there are several things that are going 1748 01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:03,760 to be happening in the next six months 1749 01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:04,880 or a year 1750 01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:07,599 uh which i am very concerned with i 1751 01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:08,960 believe 1752 01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:10,640 that they're gonna and this is my 1753 01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:13,680 personal belief based on my own research 1754 01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:15,200 and logic 1755 01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:17,359 your opinion may vary feel free to 1756 01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:18,719 disagree with me 1757 01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:20,400 but i believe that there is going to be 1758 01:08:23,829 --> 01:08:21,839 food shortages 1759 01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:23,839 the likes of which the united states has 1760 01:08:27,189 --> 01:08:25,440 never seen before 1761 01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:27,199 and and it's coming 1762 01:08:29,669 --> 01:08:28,000 uh 1763 01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:29,679 a lot of people aren't aware but you 1764 01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:31,600 know ukraine 1765 01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:33,359 makes a lot of wheat for the rest of the 1766 01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:35,199 world we don't get our meat from them 1767 01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:37,040 but a lot of others do 1768 01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:38,799 so it's not going to be just the united 1769 01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:40,319 states food shortage it's going to be a 1770 01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:43,199 worldwide food shortage 1771 01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:44,880 also 1772 01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:46,560 russia is one of the world's leading 1773 01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:48,319 suppliers of 1774 01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:49,759 fertilizer 1775 01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:51,600 and 1776 01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:53,679 that's a big problem 1777 01:08:58,550 --> 01:08:56,000 because of the sanctions on russia 1778 01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:58,560 uh you can't get fertilizer from russia 1779 01:09:02,070 --> 01:09:00,560 meaning that a lot of farmers aren't 1780 01:09:04,630 --> 01:09:02,080 getting the fertilizer they need to 1781 01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:04,640 produce these huge massive amounts of 1782 01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:06,480 food that we all need here on this 1783 01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:07,679 planet 1784 01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:09,359 there's a lot of other reasons but those 1785 01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:11,679 are the two two of the major the other 1786 01:09:16,390 --> 01:09:13,600 the other thing is that 1787 01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:16,400 there are going to be continuing climbs 1788 01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:20,000 in pricing for for fuel and diesel fuel 1789 01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:22,319 especially and 1790 01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:23,679 people don't realize this but when 1791 01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:26,239 diesel fuel goes up in price everything 1792 01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:28,400 does because you need the diesel fuel to 1793 01:09:32,950 --> 01:09:31,199 get to put in the trucks to to truck 1794 01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:32,960 food everywhere 1795 01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:35,359 there's a whole lot of reasons but 1796 01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:36,960 i truly believe that we're heading 1797 01:09:43,590 --> 01:09:42,390 [\h__\h] store that's that's the best way 1798 01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:43,600 that i could put it i think just gonna 1799 01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:46,319 be you think that prices are high right 1800 01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:47,440 now 1801 01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:49,440 i i think that you're in the next six 1802 01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:50,799 months to a year you're going to be 1803 01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:54,080 shocked at how crazy this inflation gets 1804 01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:55,840 and it there doesn't seem to be any end 1805 01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:58,560 in sight to these raising prices or the 1806 01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:00,560 way things are going here 1807 01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:02,480 gas keeps going up 1808 01:10:08,229 --> 01:10:05,040 and uh 1809 01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:08,239 food keeps going up you know 1810 01:10:12,910 --> 01:10:10,719 oh thank you aximus row with a kind and 1811 01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:12,920 generous ten dollars australian says a 1812 01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:15,600 contribution towards your email support 1813 01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:17,280 thanks for what you do steve busting 1814 01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:18,960 balls takes balls 1815 01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:20,560 thank you i appreciate your kindness 1816 01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:22,480 your generosity and your support of the 1817 01:10:25,030 --> 01:10:23,280 show 1818 01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:25,040 very very kind of you 1819 01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:26,960 uh we're going to find the cash clown 1820 01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:28,320 here to thank you 1821 01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:30,320 i'm still working on the new bumpers but 1822 01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:32,480 we'll have those soon in the meantime 1823 01:10:36,550 --> 01:10:34,960 here's our cash clown to thank you xmas 1824 01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:36,560 row and everybody else for helping us 1825 01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:42,830 right you guys praise the guys crazy 1826 01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:46,080 cash thank you for your kindness thank 1827 01:10:50,670 --> 01:10:48,159 you for your generosity 1828 01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:50,680 crazy cash crazy cash raise the cash 1829 01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:00,630 thank you very much xmas 1830 01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:02,480 there in florida says i feel it in my 1831 01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:04,400 gut i'm not sure what you feel in your 1832 01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:07,440 gut i missed the previous message 1833 01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,360 uh 1834 01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:11,440 yeah unknown center that's another issue 1835 01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:13,600 russia is stealing ukraine's wheat what 1836 01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:15,760 they planted this year they did not 1837 01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:16,960 plant 1838 01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:18,480 uh 1839 01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:20,080 they did not plant 1840 01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:22,560 as much wheat this year obviously as 1841 01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:24,480 they usually would 1842 01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:27,280 because of the of the war that's going 1843 01:11:32,470 --> 01:11:29,920 on right now but what we was there 1844 01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:32,480 russia is stealing by the shipload right 1845 01:11:36,149 --> 01:11:34,480 now that's why they want the donbass 1846 01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:36,159 region so that they can land lock 1847 01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:38,800 ukraine off take whatever resources they 1848 01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:40,400 want 1849 01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:41,840 and you know uh 1850 01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:43,760 that whole situation is very sad there's 1851 01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:47,120 millions of refugees these people these 1852 01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:49,679 i'm not taking sides who's right who's 1853 01:11:51,830 --> 01:11:50,560 wrong 1854 01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:51,840 but 1855 01:11:55,590 --> 01:11:53,679 i have seen all these news reports of 1856 01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:55,600 russians bombing schools and 1857 01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:57,920 kindergartens and hospitals 1858 01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:59,199 it's horrific 1859 01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:01,360 you know people sort of forget we're so 1860 01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:02,880 far removed 1861 01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:04,000 and 1862 01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:05,920 you know i would say if you're a praying 1863 01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:08,400 person pray for those people that are in 1864 01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:10,560 the war zone because war is hell it's 1865 01:12:17,669 --> 01:12:12,320 literally hell these people are going 1866 01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:20,790 yeah alex jones was right 1867 01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:22,400 and by the way i believe alex jones 1868 01:12:25,510 --> 01:12:24,080 predicted the russian war but that 1869 01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:25,520 wasn't hard to do while they were 1870 01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:28,560 amassing hundreds of thousands of troops 1871 01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:31,440 uh you know on the border of the country 1872 01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:33,520 they were intending to invade but still 1873 01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:36,320 he did predict that they would uh lord 1874 01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:39,280 ludacris i'd i don't believe so that not 1875 01:12:43,910 --> 01:12:42,000 that i have heard of but uh here in the 1876 01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:43,920 united states of course we've got a baby 1877 01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:45,760 formula shortage which is horrific if 1878 01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:47,040 you're a parent 1879 01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:48,640 me and my wife were just talking saying 1880 01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:50,880 that we're both so glad that 1881 01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:53,440 our children are above you know bottle 1882 01:13:01,510 --> 01:12:59,350 that's horrific imagine if you have a 1883 01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:01,520 baby and what if you have a baby and you 1884 01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:04,320 just can't breastfeed some women can't 1885 01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:06,080 for whatever reasons health reasons 1886 01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:07,920 whatever 1887 01:13:12,310 --> 01:13:09,840 you know 1888 01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:12,320 not being able to get baby formula for 1889 01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:14,800 your child it's horrific what's going on 1890 01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:16,880 in this country i 1891 01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:18,560 you know have lived through many things 1892 01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:20,159 911 and 1893 01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:22,320 you know all these wars 1894 01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:24,560 that never ended and and many other 1895 01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:26,640 things but 1896 01:13:32,870 --> 01:13:30,000 i have never been more concerned about 1897 01:13:34,870 --> 01:13:32,880 the future than i am right now 1898 01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:34,880 but part of that could be because i've 1899 01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:37,040 got two children and that makes you 1900 01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:39,120 worry a lot you know when it was just me 1901 01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:40,640 i was kind of like whatever happens 1902 01:13:44,790 --> 01:13:42,960 happens i'll survive i'll deal with it 1903 01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:44,800 but once you add those children and wife 1904 01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:46,640 to the equation 1905 01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:48,159 i take very seriously a man's 1906 01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:49,760 responsibility to protect to be the 1907 01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:52,800 protector and provider to the family 1908 01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:56,400 so uh i'm the worrying sort i guess too 1909 01:14:02,149 --> 01:13:58,880 but you know the cabin that i built has 1910 01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:02,159 made me worry a lot less because 1911 01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:04,159 everything there is designed that we 1912 01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:05,840 could survive 1913 01:14:10,229 --> 01:14:08,159 there on nothing you know 1914 01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:10,239 there's wood everywhere so there's wood 1915 01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:13,040 heaters we can always be warm 1916 01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:15,120 we can always cook our food there's 1917 01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:16,880 water nearby 1918 01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:18,960 um you know there's plenty of protein 1919 01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:22,159 walking around the cabin is well stocked 1920 01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:24,080 and that makes me worry less and then i 1921 01:14:29,350 --> 01:14:27,120 know that's a little strange right but 1922 01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:29,360 it's it's a feeling of comfort to me to 1923 01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:31,600 know that no matter what happens 1924 01:14:35,830 --> 01:14:33,600 uh in this country i have a place to 1925 01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:35,840 take my family to although be safe and 1926 01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:37,679 warm and hopefully fed 1927 01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:39,440 uh well-fed 1928 01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:40,560 yeah 1929 01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:41,520 so 1930 01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:42,640 uh 1931 01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:46,800 i wanted to mention that we're going to 1932 01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:49,199 be having these huge i just mentioned it 1933 01:14:53,510 --> 01:14:51,520 for a patreon video last night 1934 01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:53,520 i'm wrapping up these huge projects by 1935 01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:02,070 yeah shout out to 1936 01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:04,080 walter bosley from the walter bosley 1937 01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:06,000 channel wanted to find his uh he says be 1938 01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:08,080 cautious of news reports want to let 1939 01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:10,480 walter bosley and all of you know that 1940 01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:13,040 the the 75th anniversary of roswell is 1941 01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:16,320 coming up and uh i did a good thing and 1942 01:15:20,790 --> 01:15:18,880 i planned ahead i started interviewing 1943 01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:20,800 some time ago all the world's leading 1944 01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:23,199 experts on the roswell event 1945 01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:24,800 we've got walter bosley in there we've 1946 01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,360 got alien scientists in there we've got 1947 01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:29,760 don schmidt in there cal korff is in 1948 01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:33,440 there we've got tom carey we've got now 1949 01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:36,640 we've got michael schratt in there 1950 01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:41,600 and and uh kevin randle is interviewed 1951 01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:44,159 i had this selfish desire and thought 1952 01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:46,480 that if i uh 1953 01:15:49,830 --> 01:15:48,000 if i uh 1954 01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:49,840 if i could 1955 01:15:53,430 --> 01:15:51,840 i would inter like to interview all the 1956 01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:53,440 world's leading experts authors and 1957 01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:56,080 researchers on roswell and i was sure 1958 01:15:59,669 --> 01:15:57,760 that if i could just get to talk to all 1959 01:16:02,229 --> 01:15:59,679 those guys i could finally know the 1960 01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:02,239 truth and and make up my mind and to be 1961 01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:03,360 honest 1962 01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:05,040 i'm still on the fence but most of me 1963 01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:07,840 leads towards the alien hypothesis 1964 01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:10,159 for various reasons but anyway 1965 01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:12,159 the 75th anniversary of roswell is 1966 01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:14,400 coming up in just a few short weeks 1967 01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:16,640 really it's july 7th 1968 01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:18,400 most people would say you know some 1969 01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:21,360 people say that crashed earlier whatever 1970 01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:23,520 what whatever the official anniversary 1971 01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:26,960 is we're gonna broadcast all together 1972 01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:28,880 all the world's leading experts on the 1973 01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:30,880 roswell event i haven't decided what i'm 1974 01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:33,280 gonna call it yet i just think maybe 1975 01:16:38,310 --> 01:16:36,320 they're revisiting roswell the deep dive 1976 01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:38,320 because this thing's going to be like 12 1977 01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:40,400 or 14 hours long 1978 01:16:44,470 --> 01:16:42,320 and we're going to broadcast it on the 1979 01:16:46,550 --> 01:16:44,480 75th anniversary of roswell which i'm 1980 01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:46,560 very very excited about i think that it 1981 01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:48,719 could pick up some steam given the 1982 01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:51,120 attention that roswell gets hey if you 1983 01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:52,239 really want to know what happened at 1984 01:16:56,470 --> 01:16:54,960 roswell here's one thing that you can 1985 01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:56,480 sit through and i know it's going to be 1986 01:17:01,189 --> 01:16:58,239 long but some people like that it's 1987 01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:01,199 going to be super long here's one huge 1988 01:17:04,149 --> 01:17:03,280 broadcast that you can sit through and 1989 01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:04,159 hear 1990 01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:06,080 the opinion of all the world's leading 1991 01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:08,560 experts on the roswell event 1992 01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:10,239 we've also got this honest ufo 1993 01:17:14,149 --> 01:17:11,760 conference coming up which will be 1994 01:17:17,270 --> 01:17:14,159 several hours long and that has taken 1995 01:17:19,030 --> 01:17:17,280 together all of the masks and character 1996 01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:19,040 projects that we have done here over the 1997 01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:20,480 past two years 1998 01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:23,120 and we're putting them together 1999 01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:24,640 finally uh 2000 01:17:30,709 --> 01:17:28,080 two on june 5th it will be our just four 2001 01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:30,719 days from now june 5th this coming 2002 01:17:35,990 --> 01:17:33,040 sunday it will be our two year 2003 01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:36,000 anniversary of our show here and so 2004 01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:38,239 we're gonna do uh a sort of a 2005 01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:40,080 celebration and a panel show we're 2006 01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:43,040 inviting back all previous guests all 2007 01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:45,040 previous panel members or even new panel 2008 01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:46,960 members if you'd like to participate in 2009 01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:49,040 the panel show you can email me at 2010 01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:51,040 trueseekershow gmail.com but we're 2011 01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:52,560 really going to open it up and just put 2012 01:17:58,149 --> 01:17:55,280 the invitation to join the stream 2013 01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:58,159 and join the party in the live chat and 2014 01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:59,520 on twitter 2015 01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:01,679 uh the only thing we ask is no nudity 2016 01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:03,760 and yes i have to say that kate 2017 01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:06,000 schneider is here i call her mrs dark 2018 01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:11,189 uh yeah how's that where's that 2019 01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:13,679 interview how's that interview going he 2020 01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:15,840 bust his balls for me again i know he's 2021 01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:18,640 busy he's i think wait isn't he 2022 01:18:22,390 --> 01:18:21,120 broadcasting right now doesn't he have a 2023 01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:22,400 show right now 2024 01:18:25,590 --> 01:18:23,920 because if you're in my live chat 2025 01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:25,600 instead of his he probably isn't going 2026 01:18:30,550 --> 01:18:27,920 to like that 2027 01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:30,560 we have mrs dark journalist here kate 2028 01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:32,880 schneider 2029 01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:34,640 yeah he's live right now and you're in 2030 01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:37,280 my live chat oh you're in trouble girl 2031 01:18:41,189 --> 01:18:39,360 you're in trouble now 2032 01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:41,199 okay schneider says i'll bring the wine 2033 01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:43,520 great great i'm gonna get some beer i'm 2034 01:18:46,149 --> 01:18:45,040 not a wine guy 2035 01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:46,159 oh okay 2036 01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,080 kate says she's going in and out of both 2037 01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:50,880 streams yeah that might be and thank him 2038 01:18:55,910 --> 01:18:52,880 for me that might be why we had low 2039 01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:55,920 numbers tonight kate 2040 01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:59,280 son of a [\h__\h] take my audience members 2041 01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:00,960 uh my audience members will catch the 2042 01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:02,880 replay though so i'm i'm kind of okay 2043 01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:04,000 with it 2044 01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:10,719 you know i'd like to hang out with him 2045 01:19:13,669 --> 01:19:12,159 someday i'm gonna have a beer i'm gonna 2046 01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:13,679 buy him a beer i'm gonna come to boston 2047 01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:16,560 and buy him a beer uh i'd like to see 2048 01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:19,360 him out out of that uh you know men in 2049 01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,640 black suit 2050 01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:22,719 right i'd like to see him in his pajamas 2051 01:19:28,630 --> 01:19:26,000 just because i'm twisted like that kate 2052 01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:28,640 she says he's dark journalist is very 2053 01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:30,719 chill well good for him 2054 01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:33,679 he's a lucky guy i'll tell you that 2055 01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,960 all right 2056 01:19:38,149 --> 01:19:36,800 so uh that's all i got for you folks 2057 01:19:41,030 --> 01:19:38,159 we're going to bounce on out of here 2058 01:19:43,590 --> 01:19:41,040 call this a short one i uh 2059 01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:43,600 i want to thank our guest rich ufo tech 2060 01:19:47,110 --> 01:19:45,199 i'm sure he's going to be back i've 2061 01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:47,120 heard him talking 2062 01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:49,679 on other shows and i thought this guy's 2063 01:19:53,830 --> 01:19:51,440 pretty smart and he has a lot of good 2064 01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:53,840 insights into this whole phenomenon and 2065 01:19:57,669 --> 01:19:56,239 the characters inside conspiracy land i 2066 01:19:59,830 --> 01:19:57,679 want to talk to him 2067 01:20:01,990 --> 01:19:59,840 this show is wonderful in that it gives 2068 01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:02,000 me an opportunity it gives me a passport 2069 01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:03,840 really to talk to some interesting and 2070 01:20:07,590 --> 01:20:05,440 amazing people 2071 01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:07,600 by the way you audio files we'll see i 2072 01:20:11,990 --> 01:20:09,440 did something i hate to do the 2073 01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:12,000 microphone is right in the shot i don't 2074 01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:15,120 like it in the shot but you know given 2075 01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:17,280 the terrible audio quality and i get it 2076 01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:19,280 yesterday was terrible we had all these 2077 01:20:23,030 --> 01:20:21,360 settings were wrong and i didn't know it 2078 01:20:26,629 --> 01:20:23,040 i just went live 2079 01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:26,639 not knowing it and uh you know 2080 01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:28,800 these things happen with a new studio uh 2081 01:20:32,149 --> 01:20:30,320 it's a live show we're gonna roll with 2082 01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:32,159 the punches i'll see if i can't filter 2083 01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:34,320 it up for the audio podcast or fix it 2084 01:20:39,189 --> 01:20:37,760 somehow but i think it's pretty terrible 2085 01:20:41,669 --> 01:20:39,199 and also 2086 01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:41,679 you guys might want to see my my 10 lies 2087 01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:44,400 rant uh thanks to spooky 2088 01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:47,040 somebody asked me if spooky's back and 2089 01:20:50,229 --> 01:20:48,000 uh 2090 01:20:51,270 --> 01:20:50,239 i don't know i think yeah we have to 2091 01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:51,280 talk about it 2092 01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:52,320 uh 2093 01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:54,639 spooky is very very busy person 2094 01:20:59,510 --> 01:20:56,719 uh but once in a while i guess uh may 2095 01:21:02,070 --> 01:20:59,520 have time to to help us so these 2096 01:21:04,709 --> 01:21:02,080 thumbnails these excellent yeah somebody 2097 01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:04,719 met yeah thanks spooky somebody said the 2098 01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:06,880 shitty thumbnails are gone spooky must 2099 01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:09,280 be back yeah look i'm not that great at 2100 01:21:26,870 --> 01:21:22,070 did he did he 2101 01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:29,750 uh as man she's going back 2102 01:21:33,669 --> 01:21:31,840 kate schneider is dark journalist's 2103 01:21:35,430 --> 01:21:33,679 girlfriend i call her mrs dark 2104 01:21:37,270 --> 01:21:35,440 journalist and i was making fun of her 2105 01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:37,280 because dark journalist is broadcasting 2106 01:21:41,189 --> 01:21:38,719 right now and she's here in our live 2107 01:21:42,950 --> 01:21:41,199 chat but in her defense she said she's 2108 01:21:44,950 --> 01:21:42,960 bouncing back and forth between the two 2109 01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:44,960 live chats so 2110 01:21:53,270 --> 01:21:50,709 kevin uh email me some more information 2111 01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:53,280 or links about that i would be i would 2112 01:21:56,950 --> 01:21:55,600 love to know more about it 2113 01:21:58,709 --> 01:21:56,960 i think i've heard of that but i'm not 2114 01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:58,719 very familiar so email me at 2115 01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:00,960 truthseekershow gmail.com i'd like to 2116 01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:03,120 look into that for you 2117 01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:07,199 and uh ufo google's 2118 01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:08,880 ufos 2119 01:22:12,390 --> 01:22:10,159 if 2120 01:22:16,229 --> 01:22:12,400 get me a time stamp i'm trying to let 2121 01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:17,990 uh yeah 2122 01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:26,470 you know and also what's funny uh kate 2123 01:22:31,669 --> 01:22:29,440 schneider is that a journalist recently 2124 01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:31,679 is milking me for a story he's writing 2125 01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:33,520 uh and i mean like a newspaper 2126 01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:34,560 journalist 2127 01:22:37,030 --> 01:22:35,520 and uh 2128 01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:37,040 i was trying to explain a story to them 2129 01:22:41,590 --> 01:22:39,360 and i'm like they're like who's this 2130 01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:41,600 other guy in this video with 2131 01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:43,360 with uh louis alexander i'm like that's 2132 01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:45,360 dr journalist and i just said it like 2133 01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:46,880 that like 2134 01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:49,120 it's just dark journalists and and he's 2135 01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:50,960 like i don't understand 2136 01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:52,800 what's a dark journalist who's a dart 2137 01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:54,960 who's who's is that his name and i'm 2138 01:22:57,110 --> 01:22:56,159 like yeah 2139 01:22:59,830 --> 01:22:57,120 uh 2140 01:23:01,669 --> 01:22:59,840 it's just we forget sometimes being here 2141 01:23:03,910 --> 01:23:01,679 in conspiracy land that not everybody 2142 01:23:06,310 --> 01:23:03,920 knows who dark journalist is i just 2143 01:23:08,550 --> 01:23:06,320 assumed he would know but he had he had 2144 01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:08,560 no idea 2145 01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:09,360 yeah 2146 01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:10,560 so uh 2147 01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:12,080 yeah that's all i got for you friends 2148 01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:13,280 i'm gonna bounce on out of here we're 2149 01:23:17,669 --> 01:23:15,600 gonna be back tomorrow night i think i 2150 01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:17,679 got a lot to do tomorrow so maybe not 2151 01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:19,520 but if at all possible i do have a show 2152 01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:22,000 prepped planned and and ready to go for 2153 01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:22,800 you 2154 01:23:28,149 --> 01:23:24,480 um 2155 01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:28,159 and and if we do it will be 9 pm eastern 2156 01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:29,920 standard time 2157 01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:32,719 so that's all i got for you 2158 01:23:35,990 --> 01:23:34,000 again we want to thank our kind and 2159 01:23:38,229 --> 01:23:36,000 generous benefactors thank this 2160 01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:38,239 wonderful audience that we have i'm so 2161 01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:39,840 happy there's an audience every time i 2162 01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:42,080 show up it's great thank you guys for 2163 01:23:45,430 --> 01:23:43,120 being here 2164 01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:45,440 so that's it that's all i got for you 2165 01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:46,800 until next time friends my name is 2166 01:23:52,660 --> 01:23:48,800 stephen cambion good night and god bless 2167 01:23:52,670 --> 01:24:23,030 [Music] 2168 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:43,630 so 2169 01:25:22,810 --> 01:24:51,220 [Music] 2170 01:26:00,190 --> 01:25:22,820 [Applause]